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Does a Good Engineer make a
                         Good Project Manager?


                                                Daytona Beach, FL
                                                    February 2009




                                                 Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                  0
Biography

     – George N. Andrew – Working for Risk Management Corporation as a Senior Systems
       Engineer within the GOES-R Program Systems Engineering Team at Goddard Space Flight
       Center. A Chartered Engineer recognized as an Associate Fellow within AIAA, he has more
       than 29 years of experience in satellite and launch vehicle systems engineering, technical and
       project management, and space consultancy.
     – As a technical author and trainer, he has written several papers, developed and presented
       several training programs to NASA Glen Research Center, Kennedy Space Center, and
       various industry on-site locations.
     – Contact information:
                              gandrew@riskmc.com
                              o) 301 286 3613
                              c) 301 789 3340




                                                                         Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                                  1
Agenda

                    Introduction

                    Types of Engineers

                    Project Manager Qualities

                    Tie In

                    Summary




                                                Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                 2
Introduction
 What I am presenting here, is in no way aimed at any one person or organization.

 It is merely a presentation of my “prospective” of what I have observed, experienced, and learned
     over the course of my experience.

 My information is based on lessons learned, formal training (engineering, management, and
   psychology education), OJT, and the many mistakes I have made.

 Some generalities are drawn and made.

 At the end, Q&A and discussion is encouraged.




                                                                        Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                               3
Introduction
 Lessons Learned
     – Observations – How often have you found yourself saying “Why is that person a Project
       Manager – they are really bad at it?” For the most part, it is said much to often – WHY? If
       that’s what’s observed, what’s the manager missing?
     – Management training and Mentoring – how much training do each of you get? Do you get
       training on how to advance your career into management? Once you are a manager, how
       much training to you get on being a Project Manager and doing your job? You do get training
       of personnel matters, developing and conducting performance reviews, etc – why not training
       on qualities of a manager, what is required, leading people, building teams, and empowering
       people.
     – History – all to often people you know who would make a good project manager are passed
       over and the people you know wouldn’t make a good project manager are promoted. Projects
       that have good project managers usually come in on time and within budget. That’s not to say
       projects that come in late and over budget always have bad project managers, sometimes the
       project was not bid correctly, to little time and money – and sometimes Murphy won.




                                                                         Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                                4
Introduction
 I believe there to be two major types of engineer – the systems engineer and the detail design or
    analyst
     – Systems Engineers – the ones that see, understand, and create the means to make sure the
       BIG Picture gets completed. (I don’t use the word “successfully” created, as any number of
       things can go wrong at anytime, which maybe totally out of the control of engineering and/or
       management – Murphy, vendors, strikes, etc).
     – Detail design/analyst – the ones that see, understand, and pay attention to what needs to
       happen at the lowest of levels. By creating the details at the lowest of levels, the big picture
       begins to take shape and gets build from the bottom up.


 Which of the two types usually becomes a project engineer?

 Which of the two types best scribes you?




                                                                            Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                                    5
Introduction
 I have observed 3 major type of managers/leaders

     – Micromanagers
                         something in between
     – Hands off
                         something in between
     – Empowering

 Which of the three types have you observed?

 Which of the three types make a good project manager?

 Which of the three types best describes you?




                                                         Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                          6
Agenda

                    Introduction

                    Types of Engineers

                    Project Manager Qualities

                    Tie In

                    Summary




                                                Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                 7
Michaelangelo, upon choosing a piece of marble to sculpt,
                                                believed he was only releasing the sculpture that was already
                                                     inside the marble – he could see what was already there.
 Types of Engineers
     System Engineers
        – Understands the “big” picture (sees /
          understands / perceives / intuits) what needs to
          be developed and can also dive down to the
          details to understand what the detail design
          engineers are doing.
        – Follows the project for the full life cycle
        – Develops the system level requirements of what
          will be completed by the detail design engineers.
        – Performs trade studies required to develop
          requirements.
        – Supports the development of the integration &
          test requirements.
        – Works closely with the project office, customer,
          and contractors.
        – Coordinates the development of the outline and
          contents of all major review presentations.


                                                                            Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                                   8
While erecting St. Peter’s, Michaelangelo was able to
                                                      work with the architect to understand and see what was
                                                         to be created, from the top down and the inside out.
 Types of Engineers

     System Engineers con’t


        – Chairs any number and type of meetings.
        – Has the ability to see, understand, and
          discuss the details with the design
          engineers.
        – Works with the scheduler and
          understands the day-to-day activity,
          status, and what needs to be done.
        – Tracks the action items and closures.
        – Works with the Systems Assurance
          Manager in identifying and mitigating all
          risks.
        – Works with the Safety Engineer in
          identifying all hazards and reconciling all
          safety requirements with the system level
          design requirements.

                                                                            Risk Management Corporation
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Types of Engineers

     System Engineers con’t


        – Works with the launch site integration
          lead on schedule and test
          requirements.
        – Works with the Operations Manager
          and Principle Investigator on the
          development of the ops documentation
          and sequence of testing and validating
          the instrument.
        – Supports the closeout and hand off of
          the development phase to the
          operational phase.
        – On call to work any operational issues
          that may come up.
        – A good system engineers need to be
          able to multi-task and be intuitive.


                                                   Risk Management Corporation
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While painting the Sistine Chapel, Michaelangelo
                                                    was able to lay on his back inches away from the
                                                     ceiling, paint each separate piece of the overall
 Types of Engineers                                   picture, maintain focus, and when finished, the
                                                                           entire picture was created.
     Detail Design/Analyst Engineers

        – Works with the System Engineer in the
          creation of the subsystem and detailed
          level derived requirements.
        – Designs and/or oversees the detail
          design.
        – Selects and procures the detail
          components.
        – Designs the packaging, arrangement, and
          mounting of the detailed components.
        – Performs the detailed analyses that are
          required and support the detail design.
        – Develops the detailed test plans and
          procedures at the component, subsystem,
          and system levels.



                                                                     Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                            11
While painting the Sistine Chapel, Michaelangelo
                                                     had to have the big picture in mind while creating
 Types of Engineers                                       the details required to create the big picture.

  Detail Design/Analyst Engineers con’t

      – Performs the component, subsystem, and
        system level testing.
      – Develops the presentation material for all
        major reviews.
      – Participates and supports any number of
        and types of meetings.
      – Develops Integration & Test procedures.
      – Conducts Integration & Test testing.
      – Performs and/or supports all environmental
        testing.
      – Performs and/or supports the launch site
        activities.
      – Supports the development of the
        Operational documentation.
      – A good design engineer, needs to be able
        to multi-task.

                                                                      Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                              12
Agenda

                    Introduction

                    Types of Engineers

                    Project Manager Qualities

                    Tie In

                    Summary




                                                Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                 13
Project Manager Qualities

     Micromanagers
        – Never delegates
        – Always has to do it (what ever “it” is)
        – Doesn’t plan (and wonders why there is
          always a problem or a crisis)
        – Looks to blame instead of encourage
          results
        – Performs crisis management
        – What ever is done by others – isn’t done
          good enough
        – Designs can be over designed
        – Never enough time to get anything done
        – Claims the fame
        – Very little reward of subordinates
        – Based in control

                                                     Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                      14
Project Manager Qualities

     Hands off

        – Always delegates
        – Never does “it”
        – Asks others to do the planning
        – Reviews very little
        – Approves everything
        – Doesn’t understand why decisions are
          made
        – Seems to work in the shadow of others
        – Doesn’t make decisions
        – May/may not reward subordinates
        – May/may not claim the fame
        – Based in fear


                                                  Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                   15
Project Manager Qualities

     Empowering
        – Delegates with an eye open
        – Shares in the work
        – Works with others in the planning
        – Always looking ahead - plans
        – Empowers those that work for them
        – Reviews the work and makes suggestions
          for improvement
        – Pushes those that work for them to step
          forward (empowerment)
        – Encourages creativity
        – Looks to solve the issues – not blame
        – Looks to do the right thing
        – Manages time
        – Based in self assurance

                                                    Risk Management Corporation
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Agenda

                    Introduction

                    Types of Engineers

                    Project Manager Qualities

                    Tie In

                    Summary




                                                Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                 17
Tie In

    Good engineers know how/when to:
        – Multi-task
        – Step back to look at the big picture
        – Have the ability to focus on the details as well as the big picture
        – Interpret the requirements
        – Develop correlating/functional derived requirements
        – Is a team player
        – Listen to others opinions
        – Make decisions
        – Brain storm, then whittle down
        – Empower and teach others
        – Takes constructive criticism




                                                                                Risk Management Corporation
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Tie In

    Why don’t all good engineers become good managers?

    As a manager and leading people, they have trouble:
        – Coordinating
        – Leading people
        – Planning
        – Working well in a team environment
        – Making decisions
        – Being responsible for greater cost and the schedule
        – Delegating
        – With change
        – Taking constructive criticism
        – Accepting others opinion




                                                                Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                 19
Tie In
    Why don’t all good engineers become good managers?

    What may begin to happen that makes a good engineer become a bad manager:
        – They become fearful of taking on much more responsibility
        – Become fearful of making decisions
        – Feel blamed or take on the blame when things go wrong
        – Become fearful of being fired, getting a bad performance review, or being demoted
        – Realize they don’t know enough to do a good job
        – Don’t ask for help (see it as a form of weakness)
        – Don’t get any training or get inadequate training, they are ill equipped
        – Begin to lose focus on end goal and focus on the issues and problems
        – Lose trust in their immediate management team (they become insecure)
        – Have fear taking bad news up the chain and try and hide it (fear of getting reprimanded)
        – Down play the real issues
        – Have difficulty with change and want to control everything to minimize the change

                                                                            Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                               20
Agenda

                    Introduction

                    Types of Engineers

                    Project Manager Qualities

                    Tie In

                    Summary




                                                Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                 21
Summary

     There are detail Design Engineers who are to focused on the details to be able to step back to
       look at the big picture and be capable of multi-tasking.

     There are System Engineers who are to broad of thinkers and focus on the big picture to much
       to be able to dive into the details.

     Is there a correlation between which type of engineer becomes what type of manager?
        – Not that I have found – both detail design and system engineers become managers and
          can equally be bad.

     Is there a correlation between which type of manager makes the best manager?
        – I believe so – the “Empowering” manager makes the best manager.




                                                                         Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                                22
Summary
 Good leadership traits can be seen throughout the engineers career, from the first job on.

 Why is it difficult for some detail designers to be good project managers?

 Why is it difficult for some systems engineers to be good project managers?

 Good systems engineers (or engineers capable of seeing the big picture, multi-tasking, and being
   intuitive) typically become good project managers, where good detail design engineers typically
   make good subsystem leads or I&T leads.




                                                                         Risk Management Corporation
NASA PM Challenge 2009                                                                               23
Summary

     Nobody likes working for a Micromanager and the project usually performs poorly.

     Nobody likes working for the Hands off Manager and again, the project usually performs poorly.

     The Empowering Manager is typically liked, well respected, and has the typical traits:
        – Works well with others, is a team player
        – Empowers their people and teaches them
        – Secure in their decisions making process
        – Always looking and plans ahead
        – Encourages creativity
        – Brain storms and whittles down to appropriate/realistic/practical solutions
        – Willing to take appropriate risk, make mistakes, get dirty (look bad), and fail
        – Learn from mistakes and failures
        – Plot a new course and proceed forward



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  • 1. Does a Good Engineer make a Good Project Manager? Daytona Beach, FL February 2009 Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 0
  • 2. Biography – George N. Andrew – Working for Risk Management Corporation as a Senior Systems Engineer within the GOES-R Program Systems Engineering Team at Goddard Space Flight Center. A Chartered Engineer recognized as an Associate Fellow within AIAA, he has more than 29 years of experience in satellite and launch vehicle systems engineering, technical and project management, and space consultancy. – As a technical author and trainer, he has written several papers, developed and presented several training programs to NASA Glen Research Center, Kennedy Space Center, and various industry on-site locations. – Contact information: gandrew@riskmc.com o) 301 286 3613 c) 301 789 3340 Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 1
  • 3. Agenda Introduction Types of Engineers Project Manager Qualities Tie In Summary Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 2
  • 4. Introduction What I am presenting here, is in no way aimed at any one person or organization. It is merely a presentation of my “prospective” of what I have observed, experienced, and learned over the course of my experience. My information is based on lessons learned, formal training (engineering, management, and psychology education), OJT, and the many mistakes I have made. Some generalities are drawn and made. At the end, Q&A and discussion is encouraged. Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 3
  • 5. Introduction Lessons Learned – Observations – How often have you found yourself saying “Why is that person a Project Manager – they are really bad at it?” For the most part, it is said much to often – WHY? If that’s what’s observed, what’s the manager missing? – Management training and Mentoring – how much training do each of you get? Do you get training on how to advance your career into management? Once you are a manager, how much training to you get on being a Project Manager and doing your job? You do get training of personnel matters, developing and conducting performance reviews, etc – why not training on qualities of a manager, what is required, leading people, building teams, and empowering people. – History – all to often people you know who would make a good project manager are passed over and the people you know wouldn’t make a good project manager are promoted. Projects that have good project managers usually come in on time and within budget. That’s not to say projects that come in late and over budget always have bad project managers, sometimes the project was not bid correctly, to little time and money – and sometimes Murphy won. Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 4
  • 6. Introduction I believe there to be two major types of engineer – the systems engineer and the detail design or analyst – Systems Engineers – the ones that see, understand, and create the means to make sure the BIG Picture gets completed. (I don’t use the word “successfully” created, as any number of things can go wrong at anytime, which maybe totally out of the control of engineering and/or management – Murphy, vendors, strikes, etc). – Detail design/analyst – the ones that see, understand, and pay attention to what needs to happen at the lowest of levels. By creating the details at the lowest of levels, the big picture begins to take shape and gets build from the bottom up. Which of the two types usually becomes a project engineer? Which of the two types best scribes you? Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 5
  • 7. Introduction I have observed 3 major type of managers/leaders – Micromanagers something in between – Hands off something in between – Empowering Which of the three types have you observed? Which of the three types make a good project manager? Which of the three types best describes you? Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 6
  • 8. Agenda Introduction Types of Engineers Project Manager Qualities Tie In Summary Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 7
  • 9. Michaelangelo, upon choosing a piece of marble to sculpt, believed he was only releasing the sculpture that was already inside the marble – he could see what was already there. Types of Engineers System Engineers – Understands the “big” picture (sees / understands / perceives / intuits) what needs to be developed and can also dive down to the details to understand what the detail design engineers are doing. – Follows the project for the full life cycle – Develops the system level requirements of what will be completed by the detail design engineers. – Performs trade studies required to develop requirements. – Supports the development of the integration & test requirements. – Works closely with the project office, customer, and contractors. – Coordinates the development of the outline and contents of all major review presentations. Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 8
  • 10. While erecting St. Peter’s, Michaelangelo was able to work with the architect to understand and see what was to be created, from the top down and the inside out. Types of Engineers System Engineers con’t – Chairs any number and type of meetings. – Has the ability to see, understand, and discuss the details with the design engineers. – Works with the scheduler and understands the day-to-day activity, status, and what needs to be done. – Tracks the action items and closures. – Works with the Systems Assurance Manager in identifying and mitigating all risks. – Works with the Safety Engineer in identifying all hazards and reconciling all safety requirements with the system level design requirements. Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 9
  • 11. Types of Engineers System Engineers con’t – Works with the launch site integration lead on schedule and test requirements. – Works with the Operations Manager and Principle Investigator on the development of the ops documentation and sequence of testing and validating the instrument. – Supports the closeout and hand off of the development phase to the operational phase. – On call to work any operational issues that may come up. – A good system engineers need to be able to multi-task and be intuitive. Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 10
  • 12. While painting the Sistine Chapel, Michaelangelo was able to lay on his back inches away from the ceiling, paint each separate piece of the overall Types of Engineers picture, maintain focus, and when finished, the entire picture was created. Detail Design/Analyst Engineers – Works with the System Engineer in the creation of the subsystem and detailed level derived requirements. – Designs and/or oversees the detail design. – Selects and procures the detail components. – Designs the packaging, arrangement, and mounting of the detailed components. – Performs the detailed analyses that are required and support the detail design. – Develops the detailed test plans and procedures at the component, subsystem, and system levels. Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 11
  • 13. While painting the Sistine Chapel, Michaelangelo had to have the big picture in mind while creating Types of Engineers the details required to create the big picture. Detail Design/Analyst Engineers con’t – Performs the component, subsystem, and system level testing. – Develops the presentation material for all major reviews. – Participates and supports any number of and types of meetings. – Develops Integration & Test procedures. – Conducts Integration & Test testing. – Performs and/or supports all environmental testing. – Performs and/or supports the launch site activities. – Supports the development of the Operational documentation. – A good design engineer, needs to be able to multi-task. Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 12
  • 14. Agenda Introduction Types of Engineers Project Manager Qualities Tie In Summary Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 13
  • 15. Project Manager Qualities Micromanagers – Never delegates – Always has to do it (what ever “it” is) – Doesn’t plan (and wonders why there is always a problem or a crisis) – Looks to blame instead of encourage results – Performs crisis management – What ever is done by others – isn’t done good enough – Designs can be over designed – Never enough time to get anything done – Claims the fame – Very little reward of subordinates – Based in control Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 14
  • 16. Project Manager Qualities Hands off – Always delegates – Never does “it” – Asks others to do the planning – Reviews very little – Approves everything – Doesn’t understand why decisions are made – Seems to work in the shadow of others – Doesn’t make decisions – May/may not reward subordinates – May/may not claim the fame – Based in fear Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 15
  • 17. Project Manager Qualities Empowering – Delegates with an eye open – Shares in the work – Works with others in the planning – Always looking ahead - plans – Empowers those that work for them – Reviews the work and makes suggestions for improvement – Pushes those that work for them to step forward (empowerment) – Encourages creativity – Looks to solve the issues – not blame – Looks to do the right thing – Manages time – Based in self assurance Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 16
  • 18. Agenda Introduction Types of Engineers Project Manager Qualities Tie In Summary Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 17
  • 19. Tie In Good engineers know how/when to: – Multi-task – Step back to look at the big picture – Have the ability to focus on the details as well as the big picture – Interpret the requirements – Develop correlating/functional derived requirements – Is a team player – Listen to others opinions – Make decisions – Brain storm, then whittle down – Empower and teach others – Takes constructive criticism Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 18
  • 20. Tie In Why don’t all good engineers become good managers? As a manager and leading people, they have trouble: – Coordinating – Leading people – Planning – Working well in a team environment – Making decisions – Being responsible for greater cost and the schedule – Delegating – With change – Taking constructive criticism – Accepting others opinion Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 19
  • 21. Tie In Why don’t all good engineers become good managers? What may begin to happen that makes a good engineer become a bad manager: – They become fearful of taking on much more responsibility – Become fearful of making decisions – Feel blamed or take on the blame when things go wrong – Become fearful of being fired, getting a bad performance review, or being demoted – Realize they don’t know enough to do a good job – Don’t ask for help (see it as a form of weakness) – Don’t get any training or get inadequate training, they are ill equipped – Begin to lose focus on end goal and focus on the issues and problems – Lose trust in their immediate management team (they become insecure) – Have fear taking bad news up the chain and try and hide it (fear of getting reprimanded) – Down play the real issues – Have difficulty with change and want to control everything to minimize the change Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 20
  • 22. Agenda Introduction Types of Engineers Project Manager Qualities Tie In Summary Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 21
  • 23. Summary There are detail Design Engineers who are to focused on the details to be able to step back to look at the big picture and be capable of multi-tasking. There are System Engineers who are to broad of thinkers and focus on the big picture to much to be able to dive into the details. Is there a correlation between which type of engineer becomes what type of manager? – Not that I have found – both detail design and system engineers become managers and can equally be bad. Is there a correlation between which type of manager makes the best manager? – I believe so – the “Empowering” manager makes the best manager. Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 22
  • 24. Summary Good leadership traits can be seen throughout the engineers career, from the first job on. Why is it difficult for some detail designers to be good project managers? Why is it difficult for some systems engineers to be good project managers? Good systems engineers (or engineers capable of seeing the big picture, multi-tasking, and being intuitive) typically become good project managers, where good detail design engineers typically make good subsystem leads or I&T leads. Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 23
  • 25. Summary Nobody likes working for a Micromanager and the project usually performs poorly. Nobody likes working for the Hands off Manager and again, the project usually performs poorly. The Empowering Manager is typically liked, well respected, and has the typical traits: – Works well with others, is a team player – Empowers their people and teaches them – Secure in their decisions making process – Always looking and plans ahead – Encourages creativity – Brain storms and whittles down to appropriate/realistic/practical solutions – Willing to take appropriate risk, make mistakes, get dirty (look bad), and fail – Learn from mistakes and failures – Plot a new course and proceed forward Risk Management Corporation NASA PM Challenge 2009 24