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The Broad Brush                                                                                                                                             Number 1
                                                                                                                                                            11 • 2008


  A regular analysis of strategic marketing issues in the European investment business




Factories, Homes & Cottages
A new look at the architecture of
Private Banking in Europe

W                                                                        A
      elcome to our first edition of The Broad Brush. In each                   s the dust eventually settles on the financial landscape,
      we will aim briefly to describe a selection of the issues in              there will be two businesses less damaged than most:
a one area of the investment landscape across which we roam              Private Banking and Wealth Management.
in our varied strategic research assignments.
                                                                         Asset management groups will seek out these firms more than
We are very grateful to SEI, a leading global provider of                ever as potential buyers of their funds. The more resilient large
outsourced asset management, investment processing and                   financial institutions will seek to acquire them for their ‘sticky’
                                        investment     operations        assets.        And investment bankers requiring fresh challenges
                                        solutions, for making the        will set up new boutiques to compete in this market - always
                                        findings in this edition         assuming they have grasped that ‘product pushing’ is no longer
possible. SEI’s mission is to help firms in this space excel in the      the name of the game here as it was in their old territory.
delivery of advice, investment mangement and other wealth
                                                                         The first of our four sections focuses on the simple but
management services while growing revenue, allocating capital
                                                                         important point that the market is not homogenous. Existing
effectively, and managing risk.
                                                                         classifications give little clue to the underlying patterns. We
This Summer our help was requested by SEI to explore the                 suggest a new Segmentation into ‘Factories’, ‘Cottages’ and
changing landscape of wealth management in Europe. In order              ‘Homes’ (Stately- or Retirement-, take your pick).
to help it position itself for greatest success in these markets,
                                                                         This segmentation in turn unlocks new insights into the way
SEI asked us to add to its understanding of the strategic trends
                                                                         that private banks and wealth managers relate to their clients,
and relevant issues in onshore and offshore private banking
                                                                         how and where they operate, and how they seek to grow.
and wealth management. Some outputs of this project are
                                                                         These themes are explored in three further sections on
shared with you in the following pages.
                                                                         Offshore and Onshore, Discretionary and Advisory, and
Please look out for further editions of The Broad Brush on
                                                                         the Hunt for Scale.
topics such as: Developments in DC Pensions, The Shift from
                                                                         Please do give us your feedback.
Products to Solutions in Asset Management, and Distribution of
Offshore Life Insurance Products.
                                                                         Nils Johnson and Magnus Spence

                                                                      Spence Johnson is a specialist provider of marketing intelligence. Our research products and consulting
                                  15 Abchurch Lane,
                                                                      assignments support marketing, sales, and strategic planners across the investment business - in asset
                                  London EC4N 7BW UK                  management, life & pensions and wealth management.


                                  +44 20 7112 2131

                                  www.spencejohnson.com
Factories, Homes and Cottages
A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe                                  Number 1 • 11/08




  Summary

              Segmentation
 Section 1
 Page 3       Private banks and wealth management firms are not a homogenous group. There are a wide variety of
              business models. But the existing and conventional segment categories do not fully explain the distinct
              behaviours which exist.

              Research which we have recently carried out for SEI suggests that among the many available indicators,
              that there are three key measures which provide the clues – the net worth of clients, the number of
              clients, and type of mandate (discretionary/advisory).

              Using these we have found coherent patterns. There are three main groups which emerge: Factories,
              Cottages and Homes. No doubt further sub-categories can be developed, but these are the main ones.

              This categorisation unlocks insights into the way that banks relate to their clients, how and where they
              operate, and how they seek to grow. These themes are explored in the following sections.



              Offshore and Onshore
 Section 2
 Page 7       Most banks service both onshore and offshore clients, although most specialise in one direction or the
              other. The desire for offshore services is tax and privacy driven – the desire for secrecy is not the same
              as desire to avoid tax. The Factories have the highest proportion of offshore clients. Some say offshore
              is growing fastest, others the reverse.



              Discretionary and Advisory
 Section 3
 Page 11      If we were to select one single feature which was most important for understanding the behaviour of any
              Private bank or wealth management firm, it would be the proportions of its clients’ assets which are
              Discretionary and Advisory.

              Most banks are a mixture, but most focus on one or the other. Only one of our three segments, Homes,
              is focused on discretionary business. Most Factories and Cottages are heavily weighted towards advisory
              business.

              Firms which have predominantly advisory clients reveal quite different economics and drivers to firms
              with predominantly discretionary clients. For example discretionary clients are said to be much more
              profitable, and many banks have been trying to increase their discretionary books.       But very wealthy
              clients are seldom discretionary.

              Advisory clients offer the advantage of providing a lower ‘market exposure’ risk, which means that in any
              market downturn advisory clients are less likely to blame their bank. Which in turn may explain why
              advisory bankers in the current climate seem slightly less agitated than their discretionary focused
              competitors.



              Hunt for Scale
 Section 4
 Page 16      There is a big hunt for scale going on among Private banks and wealth management firms. In an
              environment where growth may no longer come through stock markets, the need to maximise efficiency
              is paramount. The industry is clearly being ‘industrialised’. But it is the Homes who need to see the
              benefits of scale most, since they seek client volume in a way that Cottages, in particular, do not. One
              measure in particular reveals most clearly the variety of attitudes towards scale – the number of
              advisers per client.




                                                              We are very grateful to SEI
                                                                                                                           2
                                                              for allowing us to publish
                                                              these findings
Factories, Homes and Cottages
A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe                                          Number 1 • 11/08




  1.1 Segmentation ● Variety

  There is an endless variety of business models
  There is an endless variety of business models in wealth management. This is not a
  homogenous group, it is highly varied. A sample of the variety is shown below. This
  prompted us to develop a more meaningful categorisation.

  This variety is not a bad thing.
                                                  Examples                  Descriptions given in interviews
  Far from it, it shows a lively
  landscape. But it does make it
  difficult to analyse. As observers                                         We are one of only fourteen ‘real’ private banks
                                                  Partnership
                                                                             in Switzerland – unlimited liability partnerships.
  of the industry we must attempt
  to compare groups of firms, and
                                                                             We’re a private bank, but we’re much closer to a
                                                  Multi family
  this grouping is problematic.
                                                                             multi-family office style business than we are to
                                                  office
                                                                             a private bank.
  One thing we found above all was
  that the conventional descriptions
                                                                             We are part PRIVATE Bank, part INVESTMENT
                                                  Private
  for grouping firms are not                                                 Manager, part Family OFFICE. So we call
                                                  Investment
  adequate. So for this project we                                           ourselves a PRIVATE INVESTMENT OFFICE.
                                                  Office
  have developed our own which
  more accurately (in our view)                                              We are an integrated broad wealth management
                                                  Integrated and
                                                                             service, becoming trusted advisors to very high
  reflect the way firms actually                  broad
                                                                             end families
  behave.

                                                                             Our model can be described as customer
                                                  Intimate, holistic
                                                                             intimacy with holistic premium service.

                                                                             The term private bank is very poorly defined.
                                                  Asset
                                                                             Most private banks, like us, just want to manage
                                                  management
                                                                             assets.
                                                  only

                                                                             Our Swiss model: primarily advisory brokerage,
                                                  Swiss model
                                                                             and very traditional Swiss private banking

                                                                             We offer what we call integrated wealth
                                                  Holistic
                                                                             management - some people call this holistic
                                                                             wealth management

                                                                             We are a global bank serving upper high net
                                                  Global lifestyle
                                                                             worth, international, commercial and lifestyle
                                                                             clients.

                                                                             We offer all the Private Banking core services:
                                                  Core services
                                                                             banking, advisory, investment, and credit.

                                                                             We are not an investment bank, we are not an
                                                  Aggregation
                                                                             asset manager. We are not a distributor. We
                                                                             are an aggregator.




                                                                  We are very grateful to SEI
                                                                                                                                  3
                                                                  for allowing us to publish
                                                                  these findings
Factories, Homes and Cottages
A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe                                                          Number 1 • 11/08




  1.2 Segmentation ● New ways

  We suggest new ways of segmenting
  By scoring each firm in a sample of 25 banks on ten features, we could scan visually for
  similar patterns. Three groups emerge: Factories, Cottages and Homes. Each group has
  clear common behaviour.
                                                      Scores for each firm interviewed

            10
  Highest
   score    9

            8

            7

            6

            5

            4

            3

            2
  Lowest
   score    1
                 Net Worth     Clients      Mandate          Domicile            AuM          Ownership     Employees        Offices      Urgency



  Most of the ten features we scored were
  not helpful in assessing differences. The             10

                                                                                                          1. Factories
  chart above appears to show just a                    9


  jumble of differences.                                8
                                                                                                          • High number of clients
                                                        7


                                                                                                          • Usually high in advisory
  But by isolating the first three in the               6


  chart – the net worth of clients, the                 5

                                                                                                          • Example UBS
  number of clients, and type of mandate                4


  (discretionary/advisory) – we can see                 3


  patterns emerge.                                      2
                                                                                                            10
  We suggest there are in fact three                    1
                                                                                                            9
                                                               Net Worth       Clients      Mandate
  groups, Factories, Cottages and Homes,
                                                                                                            8
  each with the broad characteristics
                                                                                         2. Cottages        7
  shown here.
                                                                                                            6
                                                                        High net worth clients
  Factories are the larger firms, but include                                                               5


                                                                        Low number of clients
  a variety of models. Cottages align                                                                       4


  closely to Family and Multi- Family offices                                                               3

                                                             Example Lord North Street
  in terms of commonly used terms.                                                                          2


  Homes are mostly smaller, and tend to                                                                     1
                                                                                                                 Net Worth    Clients   Mandate
  be more focused on discretionary clients              10

  than the other types. We are tempted to               9

  call them ‘retirement homes’ because                  8

  their clients are often more elderly.                                                                   3. Stately or Retirement
                                                        7


                                                                                                             Homes (‘Homes’)
                                                        6

                                                        5

                                                                                                          • Low in advisory
                                                        4

                                                        3
                                                                                                          • Lower net worth clients
                                                        2

                                                                                                          • Example Rathbones
                                                        1
                                                               Net Worth       Clients      Mandate




                                                                           We are very grateful to SEI
                                                                                                                                                    4
                                                                           for allowing us to publish
                                                                           these findings
Factories, Homes and Cottages
A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe                                        Number 1 • 11/08




  1.3 Segmentation ● Services

  Factories tend to offer the broadest range of services
  As you might expect Factories distinguish themselves by offering a wide variety of services,
  while Cottages and Homes focus on investment.


                                                        Services offered

       100%



        75%



        50%



        25%



         0%
                             Factory                             Cottage                               Home


           Investment           Trusts          Tax advice       Banking             Lending       Custody            Other



                                                                           Comments given in interviews
  The chart shows how varied the
  factories are, offering their clients
                                                  Some Factories           This is the key to the success of the big banks
  everything from investment to trust
                                                  maintain you             who have gathered so much more assets in
  and tax advice, banking and lending
                                                  have to have a           recent years. They have easy access to
  (credits).                                      wide offering            specialists and a credible and wide collection of
                                                                           offerings.
  The smaller Cottages and Homes are
  much more focused. As one told us,                                       You have to offer a wide range. If you don’t offer
                                                                           credits, for example, then others can have a
  “generally very wealthy clients don't
                                                                           hook into your clients. If others have a hook
  need input on Trusts and so on - they
                                                                           into your clients it becomes that much more
  are already in place”.
                                                                           difficult to maintain the client relationship.



                                                  But Cottages and         Generally very wealthy clients don't need input
                                                  Homes generally          on Trusts and so on - they are already in place.
                                                  avoid trying to          If they do, we introduce them to legal experts.
                                                  compete with             We don't pretend to have specialist legal
                                                  lawyers, and             knowledge.
                                                  don’t want to
                                                  provide low              Most of our clients, in the wealth profile we’ve
                                                  margin services          talked about, have accountants and lawyers
                                                  like Banking and         advising them.
                                                  Credits.
                                                                           Our major value offering is service. Not tax.

                                                                           We try to give to a soup-to-nuts service. But we
                                                                           don’t do everything, for example credits.

                                                                           Clients do not want a bank offering. That is not
                                                                           what they are interested in.

                                                                           Banking is not an attractive proposition.
                                                                           Commodity services like credits, credit cards,
                                                                           and chequebooks do not make money, but are
                                                                           nonetheless high risk, because they can ruin
                                                                           your reputation overnight if you get it wrong.



                                                                We are very grateful to SEI
                                                                                                                                5
                                                                for allowing us to publish
                                                                these findings
Factories, Homes and Cottages
A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe                                                                                  Number 1 • 11/08




  1.4 Segmentation ● Homes

  Homes focus on discretionary, onshore and less wealthy
  A key factor distinguishing Homes is that their clients tend to be onshore, discretionary, and
  are less wealthy than those of the Factories and Cottages.


                                                                                   Client base by domicile and mandate scores                  Factory
  Homes are clearly much                                                  10
                                          Offshore                                                                                             Home
  more focused on onshore
                                                                                                                                                           Comments given
                                                                                                                                               Cottage
  assets, which in turn tend                                                                                                                                 in interviews
  to be more discretionary.
  Factories and Cottages
                                                                                                                         2
                                                                                                                                                     We live in a sort of virtual,
                                                                                                                     R = 0.1222
                                                      Offshore domicile

                                                                                                                                                     global world. Because
  are the reverse.                                                                                                                                   we’re advice led, we ’re
                                                                                                                                                     upper high; we ’re upper of
                                                                                                                                                     the upper where we ’re
  Homes are also much                                                                                                                                pitching, we ’re
                                                                           5
                                                                                                                                                     international. (F -1)
  more focused on less
  wealthy clients, as shown
  in the lower chart. This is                                                                                                                        The discretionary side of
                                                                                                                                                     the business is the one
  again in contrast to                                                                                                                               that ’s growing. The
                                                                                                                                                     demand coming from the
  Factories and Cottages                                                                                                                             45 to 55 year age bracket
  who tend to have much                                                                                                                              onshore in the UK is a
                                          Onshore
                                                                                                                                                     huge area. (F -17)
  higher average AuM per                                                   0

  client. Very wealthy                                                         0                        5                              10

                                                                                               Advisory Mandate
  client base also tends to
                                                                               Discretionary                                  Advisory
  indicate a high proportion
  of Offshore activity.


                                                                                   Client base by domicile and net worth scores
                                                                                                                                               Factory
                                          Offshore                    10
                                                                                                                                               Home
                                                                                                                                                            Comments given
                                                                                                                                               Cottage
                                                                                                                                                              in interviews
                                                                                                                          2
                                                                                                                         R = 0.3145
                                                                                                                                                         Our client, being the
                                                                                                                                                         upper wealth,
                                                  Offshore domicile




                                                                                                                                                         international, by
                                                                                                                                                         definition, they have an
                                                                                                                                                         international lifestyle.
                                                                                                                                                         These clients tend to be
                                                                      5
                                                                                                                                                         serviced offshore.




                                                                                                                                                         There are very few truly
                                                                                                                                                         global clients. Below
                                                                                                                                                         about £10m. most
                                                                                                                                                         client ’s needs are for
                                          Onshore                                                                                                        domestic onshore
                                                                                                                                                         services.
                                                                      0
                                                                           0                           5                                10

                                                                                                Client Net Worth

                                                                               Lower                                                  Higher




                                                                                           We are very grateful to SEI
                                                                                                                                                                                     6
                                                                                           for allowing us to publish
                                                                                           these findings
Factories, Homes and Cottages
A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe                                       Number 1 • 11/08




  2.1 Offshore and onshore ● Tax driven

  The desire for offshore services is tax and privacy driven
  The days of tax avoidance are (most say) now gone – offshore is now mostly used by those
  seeking tax efficiency and privacy
                                                                         Comments given in interviews

                                                                          Companies are increasingly using offshore
                                                  By moving assets
  Offshore clients are often said to
                                                                          centers' as a way of owning their businesses
                                                  offshore, clients
  be highly international, and in
                                                                          through what are called ‘tax blockers’. This is
                                                  can delay tax,
  need of international financial
                                                                          based on the principal that tax authorities never
                                                  and achieve
  services. This includes tax saving
                                                                          go up the whole chain
                                                  other legal tax
  advice and services like Trusts.
                                                  related
                                                                          Offshore activities are nowadays particularly
                                                  advantages.
  While most insist that regulatory                                       relevant, for those who want to be or who can
  and anti-terrorist pressures have                                       successfully be taxed on a remittance basis.
  signalled the end of tax avoidance                                      This means that they are taxed eventually when
                                                                          they bring the assets onshore, but in the
  in most European offshore
                                                                          meantime are able to postpone any tax.
  locations, some beg to differ and
  argue that “offshore is still used to
  a large extent for hiding money”.
                                                                          In my view, offshore is still used to a large
                                                  Tax avoidance
                                                                          extent for hiding money. I have seen estimates
                                                  may not have
                                                                          which suggest that half of the money in
                                                  disappeared
                                                                          Switzerland has never been declared to a tax
                                                  completely
                                                                          authority anywhere.


                                                                          Offshore clients are internationally mobile;
                                                  Offshore clients
                                                                          working away from their home country or have
                                                  are often said to
                                                                          business interests in several countries.
                                                  be highly
                                                  international,
                                                                          Our client, being the upper wealth &
                                                  and in need of
                                                                          international, by definition, they have an
                                                  international
                                                                          international lifestyle so they tend to be serviced
                                                  financial services
                                                                          offshore. Clients come to us because, through
                                                                          us they can access the world. We live in a sort
                                                                          of virtual, global world. It’s on and offshore
                                                                          both.


                                                                          For the offshore clients, if you’re a Kazakh or a
                                                  Another
                                                                          Russian or a Peruvian for instance, and you’ve
                                                  frequently
                                                                          put your money in Zurich, you’ve normally done
                                                  mentioned need
                                                                          it for a reason, and secrecy is part of that
                                                  was secrecy
                                                                          reason. It’s not necessarily about tax, but in
                                                                          some cases it’s about not wanting people or your
                                                                          government to know, because they might shoot
                                                                          you.

                                                                          There are several other reasons, apart from plain
                                                                          fraud, why assets are moved offshore. General
                                                                          secrecy is definitely a factor. So also is secrecy
                                                                          from one’s own relatives.

                                                                          There are still clients from less developed
                                                                          countries with high tax regimes who use offshore
                                                                          assets as ‘run to the airport’ money - a safety
                                                                          factor.




                                                               We are very grateful to SEI
                                                                                                                                7
                                                               for allowing us to publish
                                                               these findings
Factories, Homes and Cottages
A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe                                                    Number 1 • 11/08




  2.2 Offshore and onshore ● Secrecy

  Desire for secrecy is not the same as desire to avoid tax
  Many in the industry now talk about the need for privacy or secrecy as a key driver of
  offshore business. They can quote many examples of how an individual might want secrecy
  whilst still not trying to avoid tax. We captured three short case studies:


                   Case Study A                                 Case Study B                                      Case Study C
    Why German clients like Switzerland           Four legal reasons why assets are                 Why some people want money to be
                                                  moved offshore                                    secret
    There are several reasons why German
    clients like to use Swiss private banks.      There are several other reasons, apart            If you’re a Kazakh or a Russian or a
                                                  from plain fraud, why assets are moved            Peruvian for instance, and you’ve put
    They aren’t looking to hide their
                                                  offshore.                                         your money in Zurich, you’ve normally
    assets, and are quite willing to be
                                                                                                    done it for a reason, and secrecy is part
    completely open and transparent, and to       1. General secrecy from authorities is
                                                                                                    of that reason.
    pay all taxes. This also applies to clients   definitely a factor.
    from the Emirates.                                                                              It’s not necessarily about tax, but in
                                                  2. So also is secrecy from one’s own
                                                                                                    some cases it’s about not wanting people
    What they are looking to achieve is to        relatives. In many cases, it is easier for
                                                                                                    or your government to know, because
    spread their assets by geography, so in       a family to keep its assets offshore to
                                                                                                    they might shoot you.
    many cases they will have some of their       avoid disputes between family members.
    assets in Switzerland, and some                                                                 They are cultural reasons: local crime
                                                  3. Inheritance tax avoidance is another
    elsewhere.                                                                                      and local fiscal corruption. We have
                                                  major factor.
                                                                                                    clients who don’t want statements mailed
    They are also looking to spread their risk    4. I have heard of people living in less          to them because they don’t want the
    by currency, and Switzerland is a natural     secure countries who keep their assets            postman to see it. They’re worried the
    home for some of their assets.                offshore to avoid kidnapping risks, which         kids will get kidnapped.
    Switzerland also has a stable                 are prevalent, for example, in South
                                                                                                    So it can be very simple.
    government, which is appealing to people      America.
    from Germany who have memories of                                                               Most UK clients are less worried about
    very unstable governments in the past.                                                          secrecy - leaving tax aside, there are less
                                                                                                    people who are going to abuse it. By and
    Another factor is that many wealthy
                                                                                                    large the risks of being got at by your
    Germans and other Europeans are
                                                                                                    government or your local warlord or
    coming to live in Switzerland. A lot of
                                                                                                    whatever are limited in most parts of
    Formula One drivers now live around
                                                                                                    London!
    Lake Geneva, for example.
    Another factor is that they like the fact
    that Swiss bankers are more international
    and better educated.




                                                                      We are very grateful to SEI
                                                                                                                                                  8
                                                                      for allowing us to publish
                                                                      these findings
Factories, Homes and Cottages
A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe                                 Number 1 • 11/08




  2.3 Offshore and onshore ● Factories

  The Factories have highest proportion of offshore clients
  Factories we spoke to have the highest proportion of offshore business. The Cottages are
  also very offshore focused.



                                                                                                         Factory
                                    Client base by domicile of firms interviewed
                                                                                                         Home
                                                                                                         Cottage
                          10
        High offshore




                            5




        High onshore
                            0


  Factories tend to have clients who are wealthier, and more in need of the of offshore tax saving services, or have
  the need for privacy. Clients of Homes are happy to keep their assets onshore. As one Home firm CEO told us,
  “There are very few truly global clients. Below about £10m most client’s needs are for domestic onshore services.”




                                                              We are very grateful to SEI
                                                                                                                       9
                                                              for allowing us to publish
                                                              these findings
Factories, Homes and Cottages
A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe                                             Number 1 • 11/08




  2.4 Offshore and onshore ● Growth

  Some say offshore is growing fastest, others the reverse
  There are quite different views on the growth of offshore. Even the major consultants
  cannot agree. Many see it growing still, both in Europe and in the new centres such as
  Singapore and Dubai, while others suggest that the real growth story is onshore.


                      Comments given in interviews

                      Offshore is growing - people and capital are both becoming more international. The mega wealthy are mostly
     Grow             offshore. The advantages of tax avoidance are diminishing.
     more
                      McKinsey was saying eighteen months ago that onshore wealth management was going to grow at a faster
     than             rate than offshore wealth management and is now saying that he was wrong, and it is going to be even. My
    onshore           guess is that the next prediction is going to show that offshore is growing faster than on, because of the
                      economic situation.

                      To be honest, we thought that the offshore business was dying. About two years ago, we were considering
                      closing our [UK Channel Islands location] office. There was no growth and our view that the loss of offshore
                      tax benefits would continue to be eroded.
        Offshore




                      The new business coming from domiciled British is nearly all onshore. We’re getting more and more onshore
                      as time goes by

                      In a number of countries, the second and third generation want more use of their money and not to hide it
                      and this in turn drives the need for onshore business

                      Germans, who use Swiss private banks extensively, aren’t looking to hide their assets, and are quite willing to
                      be completely open and transparent, and to pay all taxes

                      I do believe that the trend is for more money to go onshore than offshore. Frankfurt is a very big booking
                      centre for us for Germans who don’t want to hide anything.

    Grow              The new business coming from domiciled British is nearly all onshore. We’re getting more and more onshore
                      as time goes by.
    less
    than              In the meantime you’d be well advised to spend the profits building onshore businesses, and in our case we
   onshore            will do that.




                                                                   We are very grateful to SEI
                                                                                                                                        10
                                                                   for allowing us to publish
                                                                   these findings
Factories, Homes and Cottages
A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe                                           Number 1 • 11/08




  3.1 Discretionary and Advisory ● Differences

  Discretionary and Advisory are quite different businesses
  If a bank has mostly advisory clients it is a quite different business to one which has mostly
  discretionary clients. For example, its client loyalty, cost base and regulatory risks are all
  quite different.

  Private banking consists of a range of services. You see them described in different ways by different
  commentators. One approach is to see four main offerings: Investment, Banking, Lending, and Wealth Structuring,
  as shown in our schematic below.

  We have done this so that we can show our definition of the word advisory, as being a sub-set of the investment
  offering, and not a reference to wider advice on other matters such as tax. Discretionary means that the bank
  decides where to invest, advisory that the client does this. There is a middle ground, which is explored more over
  the page, where both do it.

  The reason for making this distinction clear is that it is a vital driver of a banks client approach, and its economics.
  As we summarise below, if a bank has mostly advisory clients it is a quite different business to one which has mostly
  discretionary clients. For example, its client loyalty, cost base and regulatory risks are all quite different.



                                                Private Banking Advice and Services


                    Investment                      Banking                        Lending           ‘Wealth Structuring’


           Discretionary mandates              Current accounts                Loans (credits)         Company formation
             Advisory mandates                 Deposit accounts                 Credit Cards          Foundation formation
          Execution only mandates                 Payments                                             Trust administration
             Custody mandates                   Cheque books                                                Tax advice
                                              Cash management                                      Retirement/estate planning
                                                                                                     Philanthropic planning
                                        Definitions of investment mandates                                Life assurance
                                                                                                                etc
                                                        Client/bank
                              Bank                                                       Client
                                                      decide together
                             decides                                                     decides


                                                                      Advisory
                               Discretionary
                                                          ‘Active’                  Execution
                                                         advisory                     only

    Client Interaction             Lower                              Higher
                                                                                                    Discretionary and
    Client Stickiness              Higher                             Lower
                                                                                                    advisory appear to be
    Regulatory risk                Lower                              Higher
                                                                                                    different businesses
    Market related risk            Higher                             Lower                         altogether
    Profitability                  Higher                             Lower




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  3.2 Discretionary and Advisory ● Middle ground

  Discretionary and Advisory are not black and white terms
  There is a middle ground, where clients and bank both contribute to investment decisions.
  This middle ground is populated with examples of hybrids. Part of the reason for this is that
  banks are trying to gradually shift their clients into a discretionary mandate.

  In the Case Studies below we make the point that the terms Discretionary and Advisory are not ‘hard’ - many firms
  offer semi-advisory and semi-discretionary services.

  This is partly because some clients like to work this way. For example many very wealthy clients will resist handing
  over complete control in a discretionary mandate, but seek active input in the form of investment ideas from their
  adviser.

  A significant factor here is the desire for many banks to try to build their discretionary and shrink their advisory
  books, to increase their profitability. Hybrid investment solutions are often ways for a bank to help transition
  clients from right to left on the spectrum shown below.




                                                                                                        Advisory
              Discretionary




                                                              Case Study B                                   Case Study C
             Case Study A
                                              Two semi-discretionary solutions for clients
    Different types of                                                                             Clients who are untrusting,
                                              who won’t delegate
    discretionary clients                                                                          but needing advice

                                              Clients are less and less willing to delegate. We
    A discretionary client who wants                                                               We have discretionary and real
                                              have two ideas on that.
    to know precisely why he                                                                       advisory clients, and then
    decided to make this investment                                                                clients who are the ‘middle
                                              The first is ‘partial delegation.’ We can
    decision at that moment and                                                                    way’.
                                              manage certain parts of the portfolio that the
    wants to hold direct equities and
                                              client is not able to deal with by himself, for
    wants to hold cash, he wants to                                                                Real advisory clients use us for
                                              example alternative investment. To select five
    hold something else, invest in                                                                 execution only.*
                                              hedge funds is not that easy for a client. And the
    commodities and so on, is
                                              client takes care of the rest of his portfolio.
    completely different thing to                                                                  ‘Middle way’ clients do not
    somebody who's happy with                                                                      trust discretionary managers
                                              The second is ‘semi-delegation’ - not
    the templated model.                                                                           but they need advice because
                                              discretionary, not advisory, but between.            they do not have the
                                              Instead of signing a discretionary mandate that
    At Church House, a private bank                                                                sophistication to make their
                                              lasts for ever, the client could sign the mandate
    in Yeovil, they have three unit                                                                own decisions. There are a lot
                                              for one month, and one month later he can
    trusts. Their managers are,                                                                    like this. We cannot do
                                              decide to sign again. This has the advantage for
    basically, relationship managers.                                                              anything without the advisory
                                              the client that he won’t get his banker calling
    Depending on what you want,                                                                    clients’ approval, so we spend
                                              every day. Also it solves the problem you get
    you get a combination of those                                                                 a lot of time talking to them
                                              when a client tells you that he is aggressive, and
    three unit trusts. That is a                                                                   and gaining that approval, to
                                              then the market goes down, and then he wants
    template, and that's the scale.                                                                enable them to make
                                              to change his approach – not so easy with a          investments.
                                              discretionary mandate.




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  3.3 Discretionary and Advisory ● Unpredictable

  Mandate type is vital, but is often overlooked. Why?
  We have argued that the distinction between Discretionary and Advisory client mandates is a
  key factor in determining the character of a bank. But amazingly this distinction is not often
  made by industry observers, possibly because the measure is difficult to get or to predict.

  The distinction
                                                                                                Mandate type vs AuM
  between advisory and
  discretionary is a vital
                                                                                                                                     Other evidence *
                                                                        Evidence from this project
  clue to the nature of
                                      100%                  10
  any Private Bank, but              Advisory
  it is very difficult
  measure to obtain.
  Possibly as a result
  many industry studies
                                                  Mandate




  ignore it – a big                                                                                                                                       R2 = 0.0901
                                                               5
  mistake in our view.                                                                          R2 = 0.2341




  Nor is this measure
  easy to predict from
  the outside. For
                                     100%
  example, as our two
                                  Discretionary
  charts show, it is not                                       0
                                                                   0                  5                            10
                                                                                                                             £0              £20                        £40
  correlated either to                                                              AuM
                                                                                                                                           £m Aum
  size of AuM, nor to the
  average net worth of                                                              Mandate type vs Net Worth of Clients
  clients.
                                                                                                                                     Other evidence *
                                                                         Evidence from this project
                                          100%                 10
                                         Advisory
                                                     Mandate




                                                                                                               2
                                                               5                                              R = 0.0142

                                                                                                                                                          R2 = 0.0014




                                           100%
                                       Discretionary
                                                               0
                                                                                                                              £0              £3                        £6
                                                                    0                     5                             10

                                                                                    Net Worth                                         £m Minimum Assets




  * Top ten UK private client wealth managers. Source: Landsbanki Securities estimates. Private Client Wealth Management report, October 2007.



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  3.4 Discretionary and Advisory ● Growth

  There is no consensus on growth of discretionary
  For every respondent who told us they thought their discretionary client base was growing
  the fastest, we were told by someone else that it was their advisory clients who are growing
  most.
                                                              Comments given in interviews

                      Many Factories would like to have       We much prefer discretionary clients who are easier to manage.
                      more discretionary business             Advisory relationships are much more difficult to hold onto.

                      They find advisory work to be           Advisory are the clients who take up most of our time, and who
   Grow               demanding and less profitable           cost us the most.

                      Discretionary firms agree – they        No one wants the headache of dealing with advisory clients. Most
                      prefer discretionary mandates           of us want discretionary clients.

                      The Discretionary firms see             Discretionary is only about a third of the market today, and
                      continued growth in this business       probably growing.
      Discretionary




                      Some Factories think the opposite –     Some of the smarter banks (like EFG) actually try to avoid
                      discretionary is risky and              discretionary altogether - recognising that there are quite big risks
                      unattractive, and is shrinking          for the bank when markets turn down.

                      We saw no evidence of a shift taking    The proportion of our AuM in discretionary is going down. Clients
                      place from advisory to discretionary    are less and less willing to delegate. We don’t aim to develop
                      – if anything the opposite              discretionary portfolio management as a priority.

                      Some Cottage firms agree – they         I think there’s a little less demand for discretionary investment
                      think most new money is Advisory        today, the new money wants to be a bit more hands on.
  Shrink              Some Cottages have seen benefits in     We needed a more diversified business mix, so we started to build
                      actively growing their advisory side    a transaction based book.

                      Now some Discretionary firms are        I think we should build an advisory desk. A lot of people have a
                      thinking the same way                   very transactional attitude to their money.




  Many Factories would like to have more discretionary business. They find advisory work to be demanding and less
  profitable. But despite the desire of many firms for this to happen, we saw no evidence of a shift taking place from
  advisory to discretionary. If anything the opposite was more prominent. For example, some Factories say that
  discretionary is risky and unattractive, particularly in the current market conditions, and is shrinking.

  After all advisory business offers the advantage of providing a lower ‘market exposure’ risk, which means that in any
  market downturn advisory clients are less likely to blame their bank. Which in turn may explain why advisory
  bankers in the current climate seem slightly less agitated than their discretionary focused competitors.




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  3.5 Discretionary and Advisory ● UK differences

  Discretionary may be particularly high in the UK
  Why is it that UK banks seem to be so much more reliant on discretionary business than
  those in Switzerland? Rather backing up our point that not enough analysis is being done on
  the discretionary/advisory distinction, no one seems to know the answer to this question.
                                                                                                             Swiss
                                                 Sample by location of HQ
           10
Advisory
                                                                                                             UK
                                                                                                             Other

            5




 Discr.
            0

                Within our sample a high proportion of the UK firms had low exposure to advisory, high to discretionary, unlike
                other nationalities.

                                                                           Comments given in interviews
  No one seems able to tell us why
                                                    It is possible            In Switzerland we are primarily advisory but
  discretionary business is apparently
                                                    that the UK is            here in London we are 100% discretionary.
  so much higher among UK Private
                                                    quite unique in
  Banks than Swiss ones.
                                                    being heavy in            We have looked at taking our UK-style model to
                                                    discretionary             Europe, but the actual culture of the type of
  Some say that this is because UK
                                                    business                  investment we do is not as prevalent as it is
  money is ‘lazy’, although others                                            here.
  disagree, vehemently, on this point.
                                                                              UK onshore discretionary money is often old,
  Our sample included many Homes in                                           ‘lazy’ money – unique to the UK.
  the UK, but few in Switzerland, and
                                                                              The US clients tend to want more advisory
  this may have distorted the measure.
                                                                              services. Whereas I think the UK guys, they’re
  Discretionary may be abundant
                                                                              all time deprived, and don’t seem as interested.
  among smaller Home-type banks
  focused on onshore clients in
  Switzerland, and elsewhere,
  especially in Germany.                            Others                    If anything, UK money is more sophisticated, on
                                                    disagree. They            average. Plenty of quite financially aggressive,
                                                    say UK                    far from lazy, entrepreneurs use discretionary
                                                    discretionary             for a portion of their assets - because they're
                                                    assets are not            time poor and/or want their money managed in
                                                    ‘lazy’. It is also        a customised or specialist discretionary
                                                    likely that               mandates.
                                                    discretionary is
                                                    also in                   The average for discretionary assets in
                                                    abundance in              Switzerland is about 50% in the firms I know.
                                                    other countries,
                                                    we just haven’t           I do believe that the trend is for more money to
                                                    seen it in this           go onshore than offshore. Frankfurt is a very
                                                    project                   big booking centre for us for Germans who don’t
                                                                              want to hide anything. There is more and more
                                                                              onshore business from Germany. UBS has done
                                                                              very well there.




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  4.1 Hunt for Scale ● Nirvana

  There is a big hunt for scale going on
  Scale is the nirvana of private banking – virtually everyone wants to achieve more of it in
  some sense.
                                                                                   Comments given in interviews
  People are in short supply and are
                                                                                   You’re looking for scale. Most of all, for
                                                      Across all types,
  very expensive, and yet they are the
                                                                                   processing and administration in offshore
                                                      there is an urge
  basis of all service. This conundrum
                                                                                   centres, you want to get access to a broad range
                                                      to pump more
  is being wrestled with in different
                                                                                   of people, at cheaper rates, while preserving the
                                                      volume through
  ways by all the firms we spoke to. As
                                                                                   client privacy aspect of it.
                                                      their models.
  one large firm told us: “What we have               Shortage of
  to do is reduce the people cost and                                              Everyone is looking to achieve scale.
                                                      people is
  replace this with systems costs.”                   sometimes the
  (see Case Study, below)                                                          Scale is the toughest thing to do in this
                                                      bottleneck.
                                                                                   business, from what I can gather so far.
                                                      Sometimes it is
                                                      just shortage of
  Of course the very ‘high touch’
                                                                                   London is full of six to ten billion private client
                                                      volume.
  Cottage firms dealing with small
                                                                                   asset managers, and they’re not big enough.
  numbers of very wealthy clients are
  not trying to industrialise themselves,
                                                                                   With a few more people, we can multiply our
  but even they crave greater                                                      assets under management by ten times before
  efficiency.                                                                      we reaches our capacity constraints. But
                                                                                   keeping relationship managers is a big challenge
                                                                                   - if you get too big you can’t keep the
                                                                                   relationship managers.


                                                                                   If we do grow more, we must do this with
                                                      But new
                                                                                   technology and without also growing relationship
                                                      technology and
                                                                                   managers. We must be more scalable. This is a
                                                      systems are also
                                                                                   big issue for us.
                                                      seen as the way
                                                      to make
                                                      progress.




                                                                  Case Study
    Three reasons why systems must be consistent around the world.
    Firstly for branding purposes so that the same delivery of reports and description of products is available to clients who are increasingly
    international. The second reason is control. We need to see what the relationship managers are doing. They must tow the line, we want to
    own the client. And finally, the third reason for consistency is that there must be a consistency between what the relationship managers do,
    because one bad apple can spoil the brand for everybody.
    The key is how to balance the need for personal service to clients with the need for achieving a consistent global offering. For Bank xxx
    industrialisation of private banking means ‘mass customisation’. This is the single biggest issue for the industry. What we have to do is
    reduce the people cost and replace this with systems costs.




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  4.2 Hunt for Scale ● Homes

  Homes are most obsessed with scale
  We were told about the drive for scale in virtually all the interviews we conducted. The
  industry is clearly being ‘industrialised’. But it is the Homes who need to see the benefits of
  most, since they seek client volume in a way that Cottages, in particular, do not.

                                        Number of clients per Relationship Manager
                                                                                                                                   1
        400


          3-400                  100                                                                        7
                                                      <100                       50                                                1

                                                                                                                           We have twenty
                                                                        I think a private
                                                  If we had one                                     I am amazed at how
                           We once had 10
      Well, each RM
                                                                                                                           clients, and we
                                                                        banker will never
                                                  hundred clients                                   many clients some
                           clients per
      probably looks
                                                                                                                           have a team of
                                                                        be effective if
                                                  per relationship                                  private banks have
                           manager, now its
      after about £40-
                                                                                                                           twenty people
                                                                        they are serving
                                                  manager, we                                       per relationship
                           100, and clients
      £50m, and that’s
                                                                                                                           to do this.
                                                                        more than fifty
                                                  would be very                                     manager. In our
                           still get great
      probably three to
                                                                        clients at any
                                                  happy, and in                                     teams of two
                           service. Maybe
      four hundred
                                                                        time. Obviously
                                                  fact we are                                       relationship
                           in future we can
      clients, but it
                                                                        technology helps,
                                                  nowhere near                                      managers we are
                           achieve 200 with
      varies.
                                                                        but it can only
                                                  that yet but we                                   aiming to have one
                           technology.
                                                                        help so far.
                                                  are working on it                                 billion under
      In some Banking                                                                               management spread
      models you                                                                                    across just twenty
      could have 300                                                                                clients.
      clients per
      relationship
      manager, but in
      others you would
      be limited to 20.




              Among Homes the trend is clearly to try to                     Among some Factories and Cottages with very HNW
              increase this number to 100 and above                          clients, there is less concern with this number




  Homes gave us evidence that they are focused on using technology to try to increase the number of clients per
  relationship manager, without reducing service levels. Some talked to us about having as many as 300 to 400
  clients per relationship manager. Some factories would love to achieve this, but many others are less concerned
  with measuring scale this way, and say they cannot conceive of having more than 20 or 50 clients per relationship
  manager before it would harm their service.




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Broad Brush 1 Private Bkg 08 11 18

  • 1. The Broad Brush Number 1 11 • 2008 A regular analysis of strategic marketing issues in the European investment business Factories, Homes & Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe W A elcome to our first edition of The Broad Brush. In each s the dust eventually settles on the financial landscape, we will aim briefly to describe a selection of the issues in there will be two businesses less damaged than most: a one area of the investment landscape across which we roam Private Banking and Wealth Management. in our varied strategic research assignments. Asset management groups will seek out these firms more than We are very grateful to SEI, a leading global provider of ever as potential buyers of their funds. The more resilient large outsourced asset management, investment processing and financial institutions will seek to acquire them for their ‘sticky’ investment operations assets. And investment bankers requiring fresh challenges solutions, for making the will set up new boutiques to compete in this market - always findings in this edition assuming they have grasped that ‘product pushing’ is no longer possible. SEI’s mission is to help firms in this space excel in the the name of the game here as it was in their old territory. delivery of advice, investment mangement and other wealth The first of our four sections focuses on the simple but management services while growing revenue, allocating capital important point that the market is not homogenous. Existing effectively, and managing risk. classifications give little clue to the underlying patterns. We This Summer our help was requested by SEI to explore the suggest a new Segmentation into ‘Factories’, ‘Cottages’ and changing landscape of wealth management in Europe. In order ‘Homes’ (Stately- or Retirement-, take your pick). to help it position itself for greatest success in these markets, This segmentation in turn unlocks new insights into the way SEI asked us to add to its understanding of the strategic trends that private banks and wealth managers relate to their clients, and relevant issues in onshore and offshore private banking how and where they operate, and how they seek to grow. and wealth management. Some outputs of this project are These themes are explored in three further sections on shared with you in the following pages. Offshore and Onshore, Discretionary and Advisory, and Please look out for further editions of The Broad Brush on the Hunt for Scale. topics such as: Developments in DC Pensions, The Shift from Please do give us your feedback. Products to Solutions in Asset Management, and Distribution of Offshore Life Insurance Products. Nils Johnson and Magnus Spence Spence Johnson is a specialist provider of marketing intelligence. Our research products and consulting 15 Abchurch Lane, assignments support marketing, sales, and strategic planners across the investment business - in asset London EC4N 7BW UK management, life & pensions and wealth management. +44 20 7112 2131 www.spencejohnson.com
  • 2. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 Summary Segmentation Section 1 Page 3 Private banks and wealth management firms are not a homogenous group. There are a wide variety of business models. But the existing and conventional segment categories do not fully explain the distinct behaviours which exist. Research which we have recently carried out for SEI suggests that among the many available indicators, that there are three key measures which provide the clues – the net worth of clients, the number of clients, and type of mandate (discretionary/advisory). Using these we have found coherent patterns. There are three main groups which emerge: Factories, Cottages and Homes. No doubt further sub-categories can be developed, but these are the main ones. This categorisation unlocks insights into the way that banks relate to their clients, how and where they operate, and how they seek to grow. These themes are explored in the following sections. Offshore and Onshore Section 2 Page 7 Most banks service both onshore and offshore clients, although most specialise in one direction or the other. The desire for offshore services is tax and privacy driven – the desire for secrecy is not the same as desire to avoid tax. The Factories have the highest proportion of offshore clients. Some say offshore is growing fastest, others the reverse. Discretionary and Advisory Section 3 Page 11 If we were to select one single feature which was most important for understanding the behaviour of any Private bank or wealth management firm, it would be the proportions of its clients’ assets which are Discretionary and Advisory. Most banks are a mixture, but most focus on one or the other. Only one of our three segments, Homes, is focused on discretionary business. Most Factories and Cottages are heavily weighted towards advisory business. Firms which have predominantly advisory clients reveal quite different economics and drivers to firms with predominantly discretionary clients. For example discretionary clients are said to be much more profitable, and many banks have been trying to increase their discretionary books. But very wealthy clients are seldom discretionary. Advisory clients offer the advantage of providing a lower ‘market exposure’ risk, which means that in any market downturn advisory clients are less likely to blame their bank. Which in turn may explain why advisory bankers in the current climate seem slightly less agitated than their discretionary focused competitors. Hunt for Scale Section 4 Page 16 There is a big hunt for scale going on among Private banks and wealth management firms. In an environment where growth may no longer come through stock markets, the need to maximise efficiency is paramount. The industry is clearly being ‘industrialised’. But it is the Homes who need to see the benefits of scale most, since they seek client volume in a way that Cottages, in particular, do not. One measure in particular reveals most clearly the variety of attitudes towards scale – the number of advisers per client. We are very grateful to SEI 2 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 3. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 1.1 Segmentation ● Variety There is an endless variety of business models There is an endless variety of business models in wealth management. This is not a homogenous group, it is highly varied. A sample of the variety is shown below. This prompted us to develop a more meaningful categorisation. This variety is not a bad thing. Examples Descriptions given in interviews Far from it, it shows a lively landscape. But it does make it difficult to analyse. As observers We are one of only fourteen ‘real’ private banks Partnership in Switzerland – unlimited liability partnerships. of the industry we must attempt to compare groups of firms, and We’re a private bank, but we’re much closer to a Multi family this grouping is problematic. multi-family office style business than we are to office a private bank. One thing we found above all was that the conventional descriptions We are part PRIVATE Bank, part INVESTMENT Private for grouping firms are not Manager, part Family OFFICE. So we call Investment adequate. So for this project we ourselves a PRIVATE INVESTMENT OFFICE. Office have developed our own which more accurately (in our view) We are an integrated broad wealth management Integrated and service, becoming trusted advisors to very high reflect the way firms actually broad end families behave. Our model can be described as customer Intimate, holistic intimacy with holistic premium service. The term private bank is very poorly defined. Asset Most private banks, like us, just want to manage management assets. only Our Swiss model: primarily advisory brokerage, Swiss model and very traditional Swiss private banking We offer what we call integrated wealth Holistic management - some people call this holistic wealth management We are a global bank serving upper high net Global lifestyle worth, international, commercial and lifestyle clients. We offer all the Private Banking core services: Core services banking, advisory, investment, and credit. We are not an investment bank, we are not an Aggregation asset manager. We are not a distributor. We are an aggregator. We are very grateful to SEI 3 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 4. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 1.2 Segmentation ● New ways We suggest new ways of segmenting By scoring each firm in a sample of 25 banks on ten features, we could scan visually for similar patterns. Three groups emerge: Factories, Cottages and Homes. Each group has clear common behaviour. Scores for each firm interviewed 10 Highest score 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 Lowest score 1 Net Worth Clients Mandate Domicile AuM Ownership Employees Offices Urgency Most of the ten features we scored were not helpful in assessing differences. The 10 1. Factories chart above appears to show just a 9 jumble of differences. 8 • High number of clients 7 • Usually high in advisory But by isolating the first three in the 6 chart – the net worth of clients, the 5 • Example UBS number of clients, and type of mandate 4 (discretionary/advisory) – we can see 3 patterns emerge. 2 10 We suggest there are in fact three 1 9 Net Worth Clients Mandate groups, Factories, Cottages and Homes, 8 each with the broad characteristics 2. Cottages 7 shown here. 6 High net worth clients Factories are the larger firms, but include 5 Low number of clients a variety of models. Cottages align 4 closely to Family and Multi- Family offices 3 Example Lord North Street in terms of commonly used terms. 2 Homes are mostly smaller, and tend to 1 Net Worth Clients Mandate be more focused on discretionary clients 10 than the other types. We are tempted to 9 call them ‘retirement homes’ because 8 their clients are often more elderly. 3. Stately or Retirement 7 Homes (‘Homes’) 6 5 • Low in advisory 4 3 • Lower net worth clients 2 • Example Rathbones 1 Net Worth Clients Mandate We are very grateful to SEI 4 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 5. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 1.3 Segmentation ● Services Factories tend to offer the broadest range of services As you might expect Factories distinguish themselves by offering a wide variety of services, while Cottages and Homes focus on investment. Services offered 100% 75% 50% 25% 0% Factory Cottage Home Investment Trusts Tax advice Banking Lending Custody Other Comments given in interviews The chart shows how varied the factories are, offering their clients Some Factories This is the key to the success of the big banks everything from investment to trust maintain you who have gathered so much more assets in and tax advice, banking and lending have to have a recent years. They have easy access to (credits). wide offering specialists and a credible and wide collection of offerings. The smaller Cottages and Homes are much more focused. As one told us, You have to offer a wide range. If you don’t offer credits, for example, then others can have a “generally very wealthy clients don't hook into your clients. If others have a hook need input on Trusts and so on - they into your clients it becomes that much more are already in place”. difficult to maintain the client relationship. But Cottages and Generally very wealthy clients don't need input Homes generally on Trusts and so on - they are already in place. avoid trying to If they do, we introduce them to legal experts. compete with We don't pretend to have specialist legal lawyers, and knowledge. don’t want to provide low Most of our clients, in the wealth profile we’ve margin services talked about, have accountants and lawyers like Banking and advising them. Credits. Our major value offering is service. Not tax. We try to give to a soup-to-nuts service. But we don’t do everything, for example credits. Clients do not want a bank offering. That is not what they are interested in. Banking is not an attractive proposition. Commodity services like credits, credit cards, and chequebooks do not make money, but are nonetheless high risk, because they can ruin your reputation overnight if you get it wrong. We are very grateful to SEI 5 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 6. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 1.4 Segmentation ● Homes Homes focus on discretionary, onshore and less wealthy A key factor distinguishing Homes is that their clients tend to be onshore, discretionary, and are less wealthy than those of the Factories and Cottages. Client base by domicile and mandate scores Factory Homes are clearly much 10 Offshore Home more focused on onshore Comments given Cottage assets, which in turn tend in interviews to be more discretionary. Factories and Cottages 2 We live in a sort of virtual, R = 0.1222 Offshore domicile global world. Because are the reverse. we’re advice led, we ’re upper high; we ’re upper of the upper where we ’re Homes are also much pitching, we ’re 5 international. (F -1) more focused on less wealthy clients, as shown in the lower chart. This is The discretionary side of the business is the one again in contrast to that ’s growing. The demand coming from the Factories and Cottages 45 to 55 year age bracket who tend to have much onshore in the UK is a Onshore huge area. (F -17) higher average AuM per 0 client. Very wealthy 0 5 10 Advisory Mandate client base also tends to Discretionary Advisory indicate a high proportion of Offshore activity. Client base by domicile and net worth scores Factory Offshore 10 Home Comments given Cottage in interviews 2 R = 0.3145 Our client, being the upper wealth, Offshore domicile international, by definition, they have an international lifestyle. These clients tend to be 5 serviced offshore. There are very few truly global clients. Below about £10m. most client ’s needs are for Onshore domestic onshore services. 0 0 5 10 Client Net Worth Lower Higher We are very grateful to SEI 6 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 7. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 2.1 Offshore and onshore ● Tax driven The desire for offshore services is tax and privacy driven The days of tax avoidance are (most say) now gone – offshore is now mostly used by those seeking tax efficiency and privacy Comments given in interviews Companies are increasingly using offshore By moving assets Offshore clients are often said to centers' as a way of owning their businesses offshore, clients be highly international, and in through what are called ‘tax blockers’. This is can delay tax, need of international financial based on the principal that tax authorities never and achieve services. This includes tax saving go up the whole chain other legal tax advice and services like Trusts. related Offshore activities are nowadays particularly advantages. While most insist that regulatory relevant, for those who want to be or who can and anti-terrorist pressures have successfully be taxed on a remittance basis. signalled the end of tax avoidance This means that they are taxed eventually when they bring the assets onshore, but in the in most European offshore meantime are able to postpone any tax. locations, some beg to differ and argue that “offshore is still used to a large extent for hiding money”. In my view, offshore is still used to a large Tax avoidance extent for hiding money. I have seen estimates may not have which suggest that half of the money in disappeared Switzerland has never been declared to a tax completely authority anywhere. Offshore clients are internationally mobile; Offshore clients working away from their home country or have are often said to business interests in several countries. be highly international, Our client, being the upper wealth & and in need of international, by definition, they have an international international lifestyle so they tend to be serviced financial services offshore. Clients come to us because, through us they can access the world. We live in a sort of virtual, global world. It’s on and offshore both. For the offshore clients, if you’re a Kazakh or a Another Russian or a Peruvian for instance, and you’ve frequently put your money in Zurich, you’ve normally done mentioned need it for a reason, and secrecy is part of that was secrecy reason. It’s not necessarily about tax, but in some cases it’s about not wanting people or your government to know, because they might shoot you. There are several other reasons, apart from plain fraud, why assets are moved offshore. General secrecy is definitely a factor. So also is secrecy from one’s own relatives. There are still clients from less developed countries with high tax regimes who use offshore assets as ‘run to the airport’ money - a safety factor. We are very grateful to SEI 7 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 8. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 2.2 Offshore and onshore ● Secrecy Desire for secrecy is not the same as desire to avoid tax Many in the industry now talk about the need for privacy or secrecy as a key driver of offshore business. They can quote many examples of how an individual might want secrecy whilst still not trying to avoid tax. We captured three short case studies: Case Study A Case Study B Case Study C Why German clients like Switzerland Four legal reasons why assets are Why some people want money to be moved offshore secret There are several reasons why German clients like to use Swiss private banks. There are several other reasons, apart If you’re a Kazakh or a Russian or a from plain fraud, why assets are moved Peruvian for instance, and you’ve put They aren’t looking to hide their offshore. your money in Zurich, you’ve normally assets, and are quite willing to be done it for a reason, and secrecy is part completely open and transparent, and to 1. General secrecy from authorities is of that reason. pay all taxes. This also applies to clients definitely a factor. from the Emirates. It’s not necessarily about tax, but in 2. So also is secrecy from one’s own some cases it’s about not wanting people What they are looking to achieve is to relatives. In many cases, it is easier for or your government to know, because spread their assets by geography, so in a family to keep its assets offshore to they might shoot you. many cases they will have some of their avoid disputes between family members. assets in Switzerland, and some They are cultural reasons: local crime 3. Inheritance tax avoidance is another elsewhere. and local fiscal corruption. We have major factor. clients who don’t want statements mailed They are also looking to spread their risk 4. I have heard of people living in less to them because they don’t want the by currency, and Switzerland is a natural secure countries who keep their assets postman to see it. They’re worried the home for some of their assets. offshore to avoid kidnapping risks, which kids will get kidnapped. Switzerland also has a stable are prevalent, for example, in South So it can be very simple. government, which is appealing to people America. from Germany who have memories of Most UK clients are less worried about very unstable governments in the past. secrecy - leaving tax aside, there are less people who are going to abuse it. By and Another factor is that many wealthy large the risks of being got at by your Germans and other Europeans are government or your local warlord or coming to live in Switzerland. A lot of whatever are limited in most parts of Formula One drivers now live around London! Lake Geneva, for example. Another factor is that they like the fact that Swiss bankers are more international and better educated. We are very grateful to SEI 8 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 9. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 2.3 Offshore and onshore ● Factories The Factories have highest proportion of offshore clients Factories we spoke to have the highest proportion of offshore business. The Cottages are also very offshore focused. Factory Client base by domicile of firms interviewed Home Cottage 10 High offshore 5 High onshore 0 Factories tend to have clients who are wealthier, and more in need of the of offshore tax saving services, or have the need for privacy. Clients of Homes are happy to keep their assets onshore. As one Home firm CEO told us, “There are very few truly global clients. Below about £10m most client’s needs are for domestic onshore services.” We are very grateful to SEI 9 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 10. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 2.4 Offshore and onshore ● Growth Some say offshore is growing fastest, others the reverse There are quite different views on the growth of offshore. Even the major consultants cannot agree. Many see it growing still, both in Europe and in the new centres such as Singapore and Dubai, while others suggest that the real growth story is onshore. Comments given in interviews Offshore is growing - people and capital are both becoming more international. The mega wealthy are mostly Grow offshore. The advantages of tax avoidance are diminishing. more McKinsey was saying eighteen months ago that onshore wealth management was going to grow at a faster than rate than offshore wealth management and is now saying that he was wrong, and it is going to be even. My onshore guess is that the next prediction is going to show that offshore is growing faster than on, because of the economic situation. To be honest, we thought that the offshore business was dying. About two years ago, we were considering closing our [UK Channel Islands location] office. There was no growth and our view that the loss of offshore tax benefits would continue to be eroded. Offshore The new business coming from domiciled British is nearly all onshore. We’re getting more and more onshore as time goes by In a number of countries, the second and third generation want more use of their money and not to hide it and this in turn drives the need for onshore business Germans, who use Swiss private banks extensively, aren’t looking to hide their assets, and are quite willing to be completely open and transparent, and to pay all taxes I do believe that the trend is for more money to go onshore than offshore. Frankfurt is a very big booking centre for us for Germans who don’t want to hide anything. Grow The new business coming from domiciled British is nearly all onshore. We’re getting more and more onshore as time goes by. less than In the meantime you’d be well advised to spend the profits building onshore businesses, and in our case we onshore will do that. We are very grateful to SEI 10 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 11. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 3.1 Discretionary and Advisory ● Differences Discretionary and Advisory are quite different businesses If a bank has mostly advisory clients it is a quite different business to one which has mostly discretionary clients. For example, its client loyalty, cost base and regulatory risks are all quite different. Private banking consists of a range of services. You see them described in different ways by different commentators. One approach is to see four main offerings: Investment, Banking, Lending, and Wealth Structuring, as shown in our schematic below. We have done this so that we can show our definition of the word advisory, as being a sub-set of the investment offering, and not a reference to wider advice on other matters such as tax. Discretionary means that the bank decides where to invest, advisory that the client does this. There is a middle ground, which is explored more over the page, where both do it. The reason for making this distinction clear is that it is a vital driver of a banks client approach, and its economics. As we summarise below, if a bank has mostly advisory clients it is a quite different business to one which has mostly discretionary clients. For example, its client loyalty, cost base and regulatory risks are all quite different. Private Banking Advice and Services Investment Banking Lending ‘Wealth Structuring’ Discretionary mandates Current accounts Loans (credits) Company formation Advisory mandates Deposit accounts Credit Cards Foundation formation Execution only mandates Payments Trust administration Custody mandates Cheque books Tax advice Cash management Retirement/estate planning Philanthropic planning Definitions of investment mandates Life assurance etc Client/bank Bank Client decide together decides decides Advisory Discretionary ‘Active’ Execution advisory only Client Interaction Lower Higher Discretionary and Client Stickiness Higher Lower advisory appear to be Regulatory risk Lower Higher different businesses Market related risk Higher Lower altogether Profitability Higher Lower We are very grateful to SEI 11 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 12. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 3.2 Discretionary and Advisory ● Middle ground Discretionary and Advisory are not black and white terms There is a middle ground, where clients and bank both contribute to investment decisions. This middle ground is populated with examples of hybrids. Part of the reason for this is that banks are trying to gradually shift their clients into a discretionary mandate. In the Case Studies below we make the point that the terms Discretionary and Advisory are not ‘hard’ - many firms offer semi-advisory and semi-discretionary services. This is partly because some clients like to work this way. For example many very wealthy clients will resist handing over complete control in a discretionary mandate, but seek active input in the form of investment ideas from their adviser. A significant factor here is the desire for many banks to try to build their discretionary and shrink their advisory books, to increase their profitability. Hybrid investment solutions are often ways for a bank to help transition clients from right to left on the spectrum shown below. Advisory Discretionary Case Study B Case Study C Case Study A Two semi-discretionary solutions for clients Different types of Clients who are untrusting, who won’t delegate discretionary clients but needing advice Clients are less and less willing to delegate. We A discretionary client who wants We have discretionary and real have two ideas on that. to know precisely why he advisory clients, and then decided to make this investment clients who are the ‘middle The first is ‘partial delegation.’ We can decision at that moment and way’. manage certain parts of the portfolio that the wants to hold direct equities and client is not able to deal with by himself, for wants to hold cash, he wants to Real advisory clients use us for example alternative investment. To select five hold something else, invest in execution only.* hedge funds is not that easy for a client. And the commodities and so on, is client takes care of the rest of his portfolio. completely different thing to ‘Middle way’ clients do not somebody who's happy with trust discretionary managers The second is ‘semi-delegation’ - not the templated model. but they need advice because discretionary, not advisory, but between. they do not have the Instead of signing a discretionary mandate that At Church House, a private bank sophistication to make their lasts for ever, the client could sign the mandate in Yeovil, they have three unit own decisions. There are a lot for one month, and one month later he can trusts. Their managers are, like this. We cannot do decide to sign again. This has the advantage for basically, relationship managers. anything without the advisory the client that he won’t get his banker calling Depending on what you want, clients’ approval, so we spend every day. Also it solves the problem you get you get a combination of those a lot of time talking to them when a client tells you that he is aggressive, and three unit trusts. That is a and gaining that approval, to then the market goes down, and then he wants template, and that's the scale. enable them to make to change his approach – not so easy with a investments. discretionary mandate. We are very grateful to SEI 12 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 13. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 3.3 Discretionary and Advisory ● Unpredictable Mandate type is vital, but is often overlooked. Why? We have argued that the distinction between Discretionary and Advisory client mandates is a key factor in determining the character of a bank. But amazingly this distinction is not often made by industry observers, possibly because the measure is difficult to get or to predict. The distinction Mandate type vs AuM between advisory and discretionary is a vital Other evidence * Evidence from this project clue to the nature of 100% 10 any Private Bank, but Advisory it is very difficult measure to obtain. Possibly as a result many industry studies Mandate ignore it – a big R2 = 0.0901 5 mistake in our view. R2 = 0.2341 Nor is this measure easy to predict from the outside. For 100% example, as our two Discretionary charts show, it is not 0 0 5 10 £0 £20 £40 correlated either to AuM £m Aum size of AuM, nor to the average net worth of Mandate type vs Net Worth of Clients clients. Other evidence * Evidence from this project 100% 10 Advisory Mandate 2 5 R = 0.0142 R2 = 0.0014 100% Discretionary 0 £0 £3 £6 0 5 10 Net Worth £m Minimum Assets * Top ten UK private client wealth managers. Source: Landsbanki Securities estimates. Private Client Wealth Management report, October 2007. We are very grateful to SEI 13 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 14. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 3.4 Discretionary and Advisory ● Growth There is no consensus on growth of discretionary For every respondent who told us they thought their discretionary client base was growing the fastest, we were told by someone else that it was their advisory clients who are growing most. Comments given in interviews Many Factories would like to have We much prefer discretionary clients who are easier to manage. more discretionary business Advisory relationships are much more difficult to hold onto. They find advisory work to be Advisory are the clients who take up most of our time, and who Grow demanding and less profitable cost us the most. Discretionary firms agree – they No one wants the headache of dealing with advisory clients. Most prefer discretionary mandates of us want discretionary clients. The Discretionary firms see Discretionary is only about a third of the market today, and continued growth in this business probably growing. Discretionary Some Factories think the opposite – Some of the smarter banks (like EFG) actually try to avoid discretionary is risky and discretionary altogether - recognising that there are quite big risks unattractive, and is shrinking for the bank when markets turn down. We saw no evidence of a shift taking The proportion of our AuM in discretionary is going down. Clients place from advisory to discretionary are less and less willing to delegate. We don’t aim to develop – if anything the opposite discretionary portfolio management as a priority. Some Cottage firms agree – they I think there’s a little less demand for discretionary investment think most new money is Advisory today, the new money wants to be a bit more hands on. Shrink Some Cottages have seen benefits in We needed a more diversified business mix, so we started to build actively growing their advisory side a transaction based book. Now some Discretionary firms are I think we should build an advisory desk. A lot of people have a thinking the same way very transactional attitude to their money. Many Factories would like to have more discretionary business. They find advisory work to be demanding and less profitable. But despite the desire of many firms for this to happen, we saw no evidence of a shift taking place from advisory to discretionary. If anything the opposite was more prominent. For example, some Factories say that discretionary is risky and unattractive, particularly in the current market conditions, and is shrinking. After all advisory business offers the advantage of providing a lower ‘market exposure’ risk, which means that in any market downturn advisory clients are less likely to blame their bank. Which in turn may explain why advisory bankers in the current climate seem slightly less agitated than their discretionary focused competitors. We are very grateful to SEI 14 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 15. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 3.5 Discretionary and Advisory ● UK differences Discretionary may be particularly high in the UK Why is it that UK banks seem to be so much more reliant on discretionary business than those in Switzerland? Rather backing up our point that not enough analysis is being done on the discretionary/advisory distinction, no one seems to know the answer to this question. Swiss Sample by location of HQ 10 Advisory UK Other 5 Discr. 0 Within our sample a high proportion of the UK firms had low exposure to advisory, high to discretionary, unlike other nationalities. Comments given in interviews No one seems able to tell us why It is possible In Switzerland we are primarily advisory but discretionary business is apparently that the UK is here in London we are 100% discretionary. so much higher among UK Private quite unique in Banks than Swiss ones. being heavy in We have looked at taking our UK-style model to discretionary Europe, but the actual culture of the type of Some say that this is because UK business investment we do is not as prevalent as it is money is ‘lazy’, although others here. disagree, vehemently, on this point. UK onshore discretionary money is often old, Our sample included many Homes in ‘lazy’ money – unique to the UK. the UK, but few in Switzerland, and The US clients tend to want more advisory this may have distorted the measure. services. Whereas I think the UK guys, they’re Discretionary may be abundant all time deprived, and don’t seem as interested. among smaller Home-type banks focused on onshore clients in Switzerland, and elsewhere, especially in Germany. Others If anything, UK money is more sophisticated, on disagree. They average. Plenty of quite financially aggressive, say UK far from lazy, entrepreneurs use discretionary discretionary for a portion of their assets - because they're assets are not time poor and/or want their money managed in ‘lazy’. It is also a customised or specialist discretionary likely that mandates. discretionary is also in The average for discretionary assets in abundance in Switzerland is about 50% in the firms I know. other countries, we just haven’t I do believe that the trend is for more money to seen it in this go onshore than offshore. Frankfurt is a very project big booking centre for us for Germans who don’t want to hide anything. There is more and more onshore business from Germany. UBS has done very well there. We are very grateful to SEI 15 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 16. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 4.1 Hunt for Scale ● Nirvana There is a big hunt for scale going on Scale is the nirvana of private banking – virtually everyone wants to achieve more of it in some sense. Comments given in interviews People are in short supply and are You’re looking for scale. Most of all, for Across all types, very expensive, and yet they are the processing and administration in offshore there is an urge basis of all service. This conundrum centres, you want to get access to a broad range to pump more is being wrestled with in different of people, at cheaper rates, while preserving the volume through ways by all the firms we spoke to. As client privacy aspect of it. their models. one large firm told us: “What we have Shortage of to do is reduce the people cost and Everyone is looking to achieve scale. people is replace this with systems costs.” sometimes the (see Case Study, below) Scale is the toughest thing to do in this bottleneck. business, from what I can gather so far. Sometimes it is just shortage of Of course the very ‘high touch’ London is full of six to ten billion private client volume. Cottage firms dealing with small asset managers, and they’re not big enough. numbers of very wealthy clients are not trying to industrialise themselves, With a few more people, we can multiply our but even they crave greater assets under management by ten times before efficiency. we reaches our capacity constraints. But keeping relationship managers is a big challenge - if you get too big you can’t keep the relationship managers. If we do grow more, we must do this with But new technology and without also growing relationship technology and managers. We must be more scalable. This is a systems are also big issue for us. seen as the way to make progress. Case Study Three reasons why systems must be consistent around the world. Firstly for branding purposes so that the same delivery of reports and description of products is available to clients who are increasingly international. The second reason is control. We need to see what the relationship managers are doing. They must tow the line, we want to own the client. And finally, the third reason for consistency is that there must be a consistency between what the relationship managers do, because one bad apple can spoil the brand for everybody. The key is how to balance the need for personal service to clients with the need for achieving a consistent global offering. For Bank xxx industrialisation of private banking means ‘mass customisation’. This is the single biggest issue for the industry. What we have to do is reduce the people cost and replace this with systems costs. We are very grateful to SEI 16 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 17. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 4.2 Hunt for Scale ● Homes Homes are most obsessed with scale We were told about the drive for scale in virtually all the interviews we conducted. The industry is clearly being ‘industrialised’. But it is the Homes who need to see the benefits of most, since they seek client volume in a way that Cottages, in particular, do not. Number of clients per Relationship Manager 1 400 3-400 100 7 <100 50 1 We have twenty I think a private If we had one I am amazed at how We once had 10 Well, each RM clients, and we banker will never hundred clients many clients some clients per probably looks have a team of be effective if per relationship private banks have manager, now its after about £40- twenty people they are serving manager, we per relationship 100, and clients £50m, and that’s to do this. more than fifty would be very manager. In our still get great probably three to clients at any happy, and in teams of two service. Maybe four hundred time. Obviously fact we are relationship in future we can clients, but it technology helps, nowhere near managers we are achieve 200 with varies. but it can only that yet but we aiming to have one technology. help so far. are working on it billion under In some Banking management spread models you across just twenty could have 300 clients. clients per relationship manager, but in others you would be limited to 20. Among Homes the trend is clearly to try to Among some Factories and Cottages with very HNW increase this number to 100 and above clients, there is less concern with this number Homes gave us evidence that they are focused on using technology to try to increase the number of clients per relationship manager, without reducing service levels. Some talked to us about having as many as 300 to 400 clients per relationship manager. Some factories would love to achieve this, but many others are less concerned with measuring scale this way, and say they cannot conceive of having more than 20 or 50 clients per relationship manager before it would harm their service. We are very grateful to SEI 17 for allowing us to publish these findings
  • 18. Factories, Homes and Cottages A new look at the architecture of Private Banking in Europe Number 1 • 11/08 15 Abchurch Lane London EC4N 7BW UK Telephone +44 (0) 20 7112 2131 www.spencejohnson.com nils@spencejohnson.com We are very grateful to SEI 18 for allowing us to publish these findings