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RESEARCH




       2012
           BELGIUM
           Industrial market report




           HIGHLIGHTS
           •	 Despite strong investor demand for high quality logistics and industrial property, yields
              have remained stable as a result of a poor investment turnover. We believe that this trend
              will continue during 2012.

           •	 Some recent occupational transactions in the logistics market towards the end of 2011
              show	a	strengthening	climate.	However,	we	believe	that	2012	will	remain	a	difficult	year	for	
              logistics take-up.

           •	 Investment transactions in both industrial and logistics markets are characterized by a
              longer	decision	making	process	and	growing	difficulties	for	purchasers,	mainly	end-users,	
              in	financing	their	investments.

           •	 Semi-industrial take-up is decreasing across all regions.

           •	 There is still a limited development pipeline and consequently a severe lack of immediately
              available property. The logistics market continues to be characterized by built-to-suit
              projects. As land prices rise and rental values remain unchanged, developers are reluctant
              to start construction without having secured an occupier.
2012
BELGIUM
Industrial market report




Investment Data
    Prime investment yields                                           Major investment transactions
    (%)
                                                                      Purchaser                      Property                                                    sq m       Vendor
    Location                  Industrial       Logistics              Private                        Woluwe Industry Park - Sint-Stevens-Woluwe 9,000                       Segro
    Brussels                       7.75             7.00              Private                        E40 Trade Center - Sint-Stevens-Woluwe                      7,500      Segro
    Flemish Brabant                7.60             7.00
                                                                      Integrale                      Budasteenweg - Machelen                                     5,000      Pylos
    Walloon Brabant                7.60             7.30
                                                                      Intervest                      ‘De Gyzeleer’ - Huizingen                                   17,000     Sale-and-leaseback
    Antwerp                        7.75             7.25                                                                                                                    with DHL Pharma
                                                                                                                                                                            logistics
    East-West Flanders             8.25             7.50
    Limburg                        8.25             7.70              Intervest                      DHL Pharma Logistics - Huizingen                            15,900     Sale-and-leaseback
    Liège                          8.25             7.60              Intervest                      Oevel - UTI Belgium                                         27,500     West-Logistics
    Hainaut                        8.20             7.80              Intervest                      Caterpillar Logistics - Houthalen                           26,250     Groep Maes
    Namur / Luxemburg              8.20             7.80              WDP                            Betafence Zwevegem                                          120,000 Betafence
    Source : Knight Frank                                             WDP                            Genk Distribution Platform                                  18,000     Hermespark Genk
                                                                      Source : Knight Frank




Main industrial locations
                                                                                                                                                                         Main industrial locations
                                                                                                                              Netherlands
                                                                                                                                                                         Logistics market
                                          KNOKKE                                                               TURNHOUT
                                                                                                                                                                         Ports
                        OOSTENDE                                                                         ANTWERPEN

                                     BRUGGE
                                                                          ST-NIKLAAS
                                                                                                                                                 MAASEIK
               VEURNE                                        GENT

                                                                                                MECHELEN
                                                                                                                                  HASSELT
                                                                          AALST
                                                                                         VILVOORDE

                                                                                                              LEUVEN
                                                                                  BRUXELLES
                                    KORTRIJK       OUDENAARDE                                                                                                          Germany
                                                                                                                                        TONGEREN

                                                                                                            WAVRE
                                                                    ATH
                                                   TOURNAI                                                                                  LIÈGE
                                                                                              NIVELLES                                                      VERVIERS
                                                                                                                                                                 SPA
                                                                     MONS
                                                                                                                NAMUR


                                                                                                CHARLEROI

                                                                                                                     DINANT


                                                       France                           PHILIPPEVILLE




                                                                                                                                               BASTOGNE




                                                                                                                                 NEUFCHATEAU               Luxembourg

limited industrial
investment activity
                                                                                                                                                        ARLON




in 2011
                                                                                                                                               VIRTON




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Occupational data                                                                                   Belgian semi-industrial and
                                                                                                    logistics real estate market
                              Semi-industrial               Logistics                  Land value
                         Average rent     Prime         Average          Prime          € / sq m    Logistics space
                        (€/sq m/year)      rent           rent            rent
                                                                                                    > 5,000 sq m
Brussels                     48               55          40               45           140-220     Built after 1980
Flemish Brabant              48               55          40               45            125-185    Clear height > 8m
Walloon Brabant              48               52          38               42              70-120   Loading docks > 1/1,000 sq m
Antwerp                      39               46          40               43           120-190     Offices	<	10%	of	total	floorspace
East-West Flanders           36               42          38               43              70-160
                                                                                                    Semi-industrial
Limburg                      35               40          38               41              40-85
                                                                                                    > 400 sq m
Liège                        35               40          30               39              25-45
                                                                                                    Built after 1965
Hainaut                      33               42          35               38              25-45
                                                                                                    Clear height > 4.5 m
Namur / Luxemburg            33               40          30               38              20-40
                                                                                                    Loading docks are optional
                                                                                                    Offices	<	50%	of	total	floorspace



                                                                                                    TAKE-UP
                                                                                                    oN logistics
Major occupational transactions
                                                                                                    and industrial
Lettings
Tenant                         Property                           sq m           Owner              markets in 2011
Caterpillar Logistics
Damco
                               Canal Logistics
                               The Bridge Logistics
                                                                  20,000
                                                                  16,700
                                                                                 Leasinvest
                                                                                 De Paepe
                                                                                                    reached
Nike                           Herentals Logistics                48,800         Intervest          800,000 SQ M
Stanley Black & Decker         Sint-Truiden                       61,000         Goodman
Boyriven                       Nivelles                           10,000         WDP                Belgium infrastructure
Vincent Logistics              Milmort                            11,000         Private            •	 Dense motorway network
Sales                                                                                               •	 45,000,000 consumers
Occupier                       Property                           sq m           Vendor                within 3 hour drive
Duvel Moortgat                 Puurs                              25,500         Goodman
                                                                                                    •	 60%	of	EU	purchasing	power	
Colim (Colruyt)                Mechelen                           49,000         FM Logistics          within 500 km range
                                                                                                    •	 Well developed port accomodation
                                                                                                    •	 Increasing railway and inland water
                                                                                                       transportation
                                                                                                    •	 Government stimulus package
                                                                                                       focused on logistics activities
Development pipeline
                                                                                                    Source : Knight Frank

Property                                      Maximum floor area (sq m)          Developer
Brussels (Neder-Over-Heembeek)                         64,000                    Katoennatie
Bornem Maritime Logistics                             103,000                    Depaepe Group      Belgium key economic data 2011
Logistic Cluster Willebroek                            30,000                    Depaepe Group      Population                          11,071,000
Ghent Kanaalzone                                      1,600,000                  G2I                Land Mass                     30,528 sq km
Neufchâteau Ardennes Logistics                         60,000                    Group 3            GDP                            € 365,474 m
Magna Park La Louvière                                150,000                    Gazeley            Unemployment                             8.4%
Trilogiport Liège                                     200,000                    WDP                Source : Knight Frank


Source : Knight Frank




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UK
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Austria
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Belgium
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Czech Republic
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Industrial Market Report 2012

  • 1. RESEARCH 2012 BELGIUM Industrial market report HIGHLIGHTS • Despite strong investor demand for high quality logistics and industrial property, yields have remained stable as a result of a poor investment turnover. We believe that this trend will continue during 2012. • Some recent occupational transactions in the logistics market towards the end of 2011 show a strengthening climate. However, we believe that 2012 will remain a difficult year for logistics take-up. • Investment transactions in both industrial and logistics markets are characterized by a longer decision making process and growing difficulties for purchasers, mainly end-users, in financing their investments. • Semi-industrial take-up is decreasing across all regions. • There is still a limited development pipeline and consequently a severe lack of immediately available property. The logistics market continues to be characterized by built-to-suit projects. As land prices rise and rental values remain unchanged, developers are reluctant to start construction without having secured an occupier.
  • 2. 2012 BELGIUM Industrial market report Investment Data Prime investment yields Major investment transactions (%) Purchaser Property sq m Vendor Location Industrial Logistics Private Woluwe Industry Park - Sint-Stevens-Woluwe 9,000 Segro Brussels 7.75 7.00 Private E40 Trade Center - Sint-Stevens-Woluwe 7,500 Segro Flemish Brabant 7.60 7.00 Integrale Budasteenweg - Machelen 5,000 Pylos Walloon Brabant 7.60 7.30 Intervest ‘De Gyzeleer’ - Huizingen 17,000 Sale-and-leaseback Antwerp 7.75 7.25 with DHL Pharma logistics East-West Flanders 8.25 7.50 Limburg 8.25 7.70 Intervest DHL Pharma Logistics - Huizingen 15,900 Sale-and-leaseback Liège 8.25 7.60 Intervest Oevel - UTI Belgium 27,500 West-Logistics Hainaut 8.20 7.80 Intervest Caterpillar Logistics - Houthalen 26,250 Groep Maes Namur / Luxemburg 8.20 7.80 WDP Betafence Zwevegem 120,000 Betafence Source : Knight Frank WDP Genk Distribution Platform 18,000 Hermespark Genk Source : Knight Frank Main industrial locations Main industrial locations Netherlands Logistics market KNOKKE TURNHOUT Ports OOSTENDE ANTWERPEN BRUGGE ST-NIKLAAS MAASEIK VEURNE GENT MECHELEN HASSELT AALST VILVOORDE LEUVEN BRUXELLES KORTRIJK OUDENAARDE Germany TONGEREN WAVRE ATH TOURNAI LIÈGE NIVELLES VERVIERS SPA MONS NAMUR CHARLEROI DINANT France PHILIPPEVILLE BASTOGNE NEUFCHATEAU Luxembourg limited industrial investment activity ARLON in 2011 VIRTON 2
  • 3. Occupational data Belgian semi-industrial and logistics real estate market Semi-industrial Logistics Land value Average rent Prime Average Prime € / sq m Logistics space (€/sq m/year) rent rent rent > 5,000 sq m Brussels 48 55 40 45 140-220 Built after 1980 Flemish Brabant 48 55 40 45 125-185 Clear height > 8m Walloon Brabant 48 52 38 42 70-120 Loading docks > 1/1,000 sq m Antwerp 39 46 40 43 120-190 Offices < 10% of total floorspace East-West Flanders 36 42 38 43 70-160 Semi-industrial Limburg 35 40 38 41 40-85 > 400 sq m Liège 35 40 30 39 25-45 Built after 1965 Hainaut 33 42 35 38 25-45 Clear height > 4.5 m Namur / Luxemburg 33 40 30 38 20-40 Loading docks are optional Offices < 50% of total floorspace TAKE-UP oN logistics Major occupational transactions and industrial Lettings Tenant Property sq m Owner markets in 2011 Caterpillar Logistics Damco Canal Logistics The Bridge Logistics 20,000 16,700 Leasinvest De Paepe reached Nike Herentals Logistics 48,800 Intervest 800,000 SQ M Stanley Black & Decker Sint-Truiden 61,000 Goodman Boyriven Nivelles 10,000 WDP Belgium infrastructure Vincent Logistics Milmort 11,000 Private • Dense motorway network Sales • 45,000,000 consumers Occupier Property sq m Vendor within 3 hour drive Duvel Moortgat Puurs 25,500 Goodman • 60% of EU purchasing power Colim (Colruyt) Mechelen 49,000 FM Logistics within 500 km range • Well developed port accomodation • Increasing railway and inland water transportation • Government stimulus package focused on logistics activities Development pipeline Source : Knight Frank Property Maximum floor area (sq m) Developer Brussels (Neder-Over-Heembeek) 64,000 Katoennatie Bornem Maritime Logistics 103,000 Depaepe Group Belgium key economic data 2011 Logistic Cluster Willebroek 30,000 Depaepe Group Population 11,071,000 Ghent Kanaalzone 1,600,000 G2I Land Mass 30,528 sq km Neufchâteau Ardennes Logistics 60,000 Group 3 GDP € 365,474 m Magna Park La Louvière 150,000 Gazeley Unemployment 8.4% Trilogiport Liège 200,000 WDP Source : Knight Frank Source : Knight Frank 3
  • 4. RESEARCH Americas Belgium Investment Department Belgium Valuation Department USA Filip Derijck sprl Tom Maes Bermuda Managing Director Head of Valuations Brazil +32 (0) 2 548 05 48 +32 (0) 2 548 05 66 Canada filip.derijck@be.knightfrank.com tom.maes@be.knightfrank.com Caribbean Chile Alexis Duvieusart sprl Australasia Head of Investment Department Australia +32 (0) 2 548 05 48 New Zealand alexis.duvieusart@be.knightfrank.com Europe Belgium Industrial Department UK Didier Delobel Austria Head of Industrial Department Belgium +32 (0) 2 548 05 60 Czech Republic didier.delobel@be.knightfrank.com France Germany David Batens Hungary Industrial Department Ireland +32 (0) 2 548 05 61 Italy david.batens@be.knightfrank.com Monaco Poland Xavier Constant Portugal Industrial Department Romania +32 (0) 2 548 05 62 Russia xavier.constant@be.knightfrank.com Spain Switzerland The Netherlands Ukraine Africa Botswana Kenya Malawi Nigeria South Africa Tanzania Uganda Zambia Knight Frank Research provides strategic advice, consultancy services and Zimbabwe forecasting to a wide range of clients worldwide including developers, investors, Asia funding organisations, corporate institutions and the public sector. All our clients Cambodia recognise the need for expert independent advice customised to their specific needs. China Hong Kong Knight Frank Reports are also available at www.knightfrank.com India Indonesia Macau © Knight Frank LLP 2012 Malaysia This report is published for general information only. Although high standards have been used in the Singapore preparation of the information, analysis, views and projections presented in this report, no legal responsibility South Korea can be accepted by Knight Frank Research or Knight Frank LLP for any loss or damage resultant from the Thailand contents of this document. As a general report, this material does not necessarily represent the view of Vietnam Knight Frank LLP in relation to particular properties or projects. Reproduction of this report in whole or in part is allowed with proper reference to Knight Frank Research. The Gulf UAE Knight Frank LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England with registered number OC305934. Bahrain Our registered office is 55 Baker Street, London, W1U 8AN, where you may look at a list of members’ names.