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The Essence of Teachings:

Emptiness -Neither Existence Nor Voidness (2)
By Vajra Master Yeshe Thaye
Transcribed by To Sau-chu and Byron K.K. Yiu
(Lecture delivered : July 10, 2003)

If to be explained by modern scientific terminologies, it
actually refers to the “center of a whirling galaxy”. It emits
strong light beams with a gigantic shape like a mountain.
And that was why the Lord Buddha sometimes refers to
the Mount Meru as the “Mountain of Brightness”.

View of the Cosmology: The Structure
of the Universe
Our concepts are all definite and finite. Because of this
situation, sometimes we do have to wonder the kinds
of concepts that we have built into our “everyday life
existence” and our so-called “common sense”. They are,
in fact, relative in nature such that even in mathematics,
there is a symbol for infinity. But this symbol of infinity is
only in theoretical terms, but not in practical terms. So
this is something that a mathematician will like to draw
on, but others (such as a poet, a musician, or an artist)
might think of it very differently. Hence, the Buddha has
mentioned that the universes are infinite, countless and
boundless and so are all sentient beings, who are also
countless and infinite in nature.

As for the four continents, the continent itself is referring
to the clusters of galaxies. They are evolving around us
so that these four continents are referring to the four
different “clusters of galaxies”. We human beings are
now living in one of these continents in which our planet
earth exists. The sea is referring to the “aerospace” that
we are now looking at in the universe. Hence, all these
phenomena, from the scientific perspective, came to be
known to us as having a huge structure of its own.

Now, let us now look at the structure of the universe.
How would the Buddhist cosmology look like concerning
the structure of the universe? In the “Agama Sutra”, the
Buddha has mentioned about the seven elements that
combine together to form a world. They are, namely: a
sun, a moon, a Mount Meru, the four continents and the
sea. They will all combine together to form what we called
as “a world”. For more than two thousand five hundred
years ago, at the time of the Lord Buddha, people at that
time did not have any scientific knowledge about what
their world was like. So they just used their naked eyes
to see what was around them, gave them the names and
described them in different shapes and forms, etc. So,
for example, what does the Mount Meru really mean?

Mount Meru
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“large thousand world” can be equivalent to one “large
universe”. Thus, the three thousand “large thousand
worlds” will be equivalent to the infinite number of “large
universes”.
So what the Lord Buddha has revealed to us has again
been proven to be true by contemporary scientists, and
that all of these phenomena have stood up to scientific
scrutiny. Again, in the “Avatamsaka Sutra”, it was
mentioned that “each and every minute particle displays
boundless ‘sacred seas’ of Buddhas. In these ‘sacred
seas’, there are again microscopic particles. As such
progressing is repeated without a limit, it is beyond the
state that can be comprehended by one’s mind…. Like
the world of the “Indra’s Net”, they are like the “Lights of
the Mirror” with light beams interpenetrating one another.
All Buddhas are innumerable as well….”

The Indra's-Net

For example, just like when you light a candle in front of
a mirror, whereupon you see the existence of the candle
light inside the mirror itself. Then you can find that there
is another mirror, and that there is another candle inside
it; then another mirror, and another candle inside it, and
so on, and so on, without any ending to it. So this is the
idea of the “Indra’s Net”, as well as that of the “Lights of
the Mirror”. Hence, this whole idea of the “Lights of the
Mirror” refers to the infinite numbers of multiple “spatial
dimensions” and “multiple universes” (or “multi-verses”
if you like) that are interpenetrating each other, and that
there are universes within universes.

Furthermore, in the same “Agama Sutra”, the Buddha
explains that one thousand of these worlds will be
equivalent to one “small thousand world”. And then,
one thousand of these “small thousand worlds” will be
equivalent to one “medium thousand world”. And one
thousand of these “medium thousand worlds” will be
equivalent to one “large thousand world”. The Buddha
mentioned that there are altogether three thousands
of these “large thousand worlds” across the whole
spectrum of the universe. In other words, the number
of worlds in this universe is inexhaustible and endless.
Then, how would this be referred to in the scientific
community? Contemporary scientists have discovered
that are altogether more than 400 billion “small clusters”
of planets, and among which about 100 billion “clusters”
of these planets will be of the scale as large as that of the
“solar system” itself. So, in terms of the structure of the
universe, we can see that what the Buddha has revealed
to us is, in fact, very much in tune with what scientists
have discovered up till now.

And it was here that again an American cosmologist, Dr
Alan Guth, has proposed a “Super Big Bubble Theory”
in which he mentioned that the universe is composed
of a “super universe” just like a big bubble. And within
this big bubble, there are smaller bubbles. And then
within these smaller bubbles, there are again smaller
and smaller bubbles
in each of them. To
Guth, this accounts for
the innumerable and
countless numbers of
universes, and indeed
the universe is of such
kind of nature. In the
case of the Buddhist
teachings, it not only
talks about the infinite
amount of universes,
but it also talks about
the infinite amount of
“spatial
dimensions”
as well.….. (to be

Furthermore, the Lord Buddha has also mentioned
that the structure of the universe is like a “space net”,
which is composed of innumerable universes just like
the countless number of precious gems, moving under
mutually attractive forces so as to form layers of nets.
This comes to be known as the “Indra’s Net”, which was
mentioned in the “Avatamsaka Sutra” that the “Indra’s
Net” has infinite number of superimposing layers, simply
because Indra, one of the heavenly gods, has a net that
is composed of the various layers of gems. Now, how
would scientists look at this kind of structure? If explained
by scientific terms, one “small thousand world” can be
equivalent to one “galaxy”, one “medium thousand world”
can be equivalent to one “small universe”, while one

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  • 1. The Essence of Teachings: Emptiness -Neither Existence Nor Voidness (2) By Vajra Master Yeshe Thaye Transcribed by To Sau-chu and Byron K.K. Yiu (Lecture delivered : July 10, 2003) If to be explained by modern scientific terminologies, it actually refers to the “center of a whirling galaxy”. It emits strong light beams with a gigantic shape like a mountain. And that was why the Lord Buddha sometimes refers to the Mount Meru as the “Mountain of Brightness”. View of the Cosmology: The Structure of the Universe Our concepts are all definite and finite. Because of this situation, sometimes we do have to wonder the kinds of concepts that we have built into our “everyday life existence” and our so-called “common sense”. They are, in fact, relative in nature such that even in mathematics, there is a symbol for infinity. But this symbol of infinity is only in theoretical terms, but not in practical terms. So this is something that a mathematician will like to draw on, but others (such as a poet, a musician, or an artist) might think of it very differently. Hence, the Buddha has mentioned that the universes are infinite, countless and boundless and so are all sentient beings, who are also countless and infinite in nature. As for the four continents, the continent itself is referring to the clusters of galaxies. They are evolving around us so that these four continents are referring to the four different “clusters of galaxies”. We human beings are now living in one of these continents in which our planet earth exists. The sea is referring to the “aerospace” that we are now looking at in the universe. Hence, all these phenomena, from the scientific perspective, came to be known to us as having a huge structure of its own. Now, let us now look at the structure of the universe. How would the Buddhist cosmology look like concerning the structure of the universe? In the “Agama Sutra”, the Buddha has mentioned about the seven elements that combine together to form a world. They are, namely: a sun, a moon, a Mount Meru, the four continents and the sea. They will all combine together to form what we called as “a world”. For more than two thousand five hundred years ago, at the time of the Lord Buddha, people at that time did not have any scientific knowledge about what their world was like. So they just used their naked eyes to see what was around them, gave them the names and described them in different shapes and forms, etc. So, for example, what does the Mount Meru really mean? Mount Meru 1 Issue no.7 Dudjom Buddhist Association (International) Tel (852) 2558 3680 Fax (852) 3157 1144 : : 4th Floor, Federal Centre, 77 Sheung On Street, Chaiwan, Hong Kong Youtube www.youtube.com/user/DudjomBuddhist Facebook Website:http://www.dudjomba.com www.facebook.com/DudjomBuddhist Email: info@dudjomba.org.hk 土豆 http://www.tudou.com/home/dudjom 优酷 http://i.youku.com/dudjom Copyright Owner: Dudjom Buddhist Association International Limited 56.com http://i.56.com/Dudjom
  • 2. “large thousand world” can be equivalent to one “large universe”. Thus, the three thousand “large thousand worlds” will be equivalent to the infinite number of “large universes”. So what the Lord Buddha has revealed to us has again been proven to be true by contemporary scientists, and that all of these phenomena have stood up to scientific scrutiny. Again, in the “Avatamsaka Sutra”, it was mentioned that “each and every minute particle displays boundless ‘sacred seas’ of Buddhas. In these ‘sacred seas’, there are again microscopic particles. As such progressing is repeated without a limit, it is beyond the state that can be comprehended by one’s mind…. Like the world of the “Indra’s Net”, they are like the “Lights of the Mirror” with light beams interpenetrating one another. All Buddhas are innumerable as well….” The Indra's-Net For example, just like when you light a candle in front of a mirror, whereupon you see the existence of the candle light inside the mirror itself. Then you can find that there is another mirror, and that there is another candle inside it; then another mirror, and another candle inside it, and so on, and so on, without any ending to it. So this is the idea of the “Indra’s Net”, as well as that of the “Lights of the Mirror”. Hence, this whole idea of the “Lights of the Mirror” refers to the infinite numbers of multiple “spatial dimensions” and “multiple universes” (or “multi-verses” if you like) that are interpenetrating each other, and that there are universes within universes. Furthermore, in the same “Agama Sutra”, the Buddha explains that one thousand of these worlds will be equivalent to one “small thousand world”. And then, one thousand of these “small thousand worlds” will be equivalent to one “medium thousand world”. And one thousand of these “medium thousand worlds” will be equivalent to one “large thousand world”. The Buddha mentioned that there are altogether three thousands of these “large thousand worlds” across the whole spectrum of the universe. In other words, the number of worlds in this universe is inexhaustible and endless. Then, how would this be referred to in the scientific community? Contemporary scientists have discovered that are altogether more than 400 billion “small clusters” of planets, and among which about 100 billion “clusters” of these planets will be of the scale as large as that of the “solar system” itself. So, in terms of the structure of the universe, we can see that what the Buddha has revealed to us is, in fact, very much in tune with what scientists have discovered up till now. And it was here that again an American cosmologist, Dr Alan Guth, has proposed a “Super Big Bubble Theory” in which he mentioned that the universe is composed of a “super universe” just like a big bubble. And within this big bubble, there are smaller bubbles. And then within these smaller bubbles, there are again smaller and smaller bubbles in each of them. To Guth, this accounts for the innumerable and countless numbers of universes, and indeed the universe is of such kind of nature. In the case of the Buddhist teachings, it not only talks about the infinite amount of universes, but it also talks about the infinite amount of “spatial dimensions” as well.….. (to be Furthermore, the Lord Buddha has also mentioned that the structure of the universe is like a “space net”, which is composed of innumerable universes just like the countless number of precious gems, moving under mutually attractive forces so as to form layers of nets. This comes to be known as the “Indra’s Net”, which was mentioned in the “Avatamsaka Sutra” that the “Indra’s Net” has infinite number of superimposing layers, simply because Indra, one of the heavenly gods, has a net that is composed of the various layers of gems. Now, how would scientists look at this kind of structure? If explained by scientific terms, one “small thousand world” can be equivalent to one “galaxy”, one “medium thousand world” can be equivalent to one “small universe”, while one continued) The Cosmology in Tibetan Buddhism 2 Issue no.7 Dudjom Buddhist Association (International) Tel (852) 2558 3680 Fax (852) 3157 1144 : : 4th Floor, Federal Centre, 77 Sheung On Street, Chaiwan, Hong Kong Youtube www.youtube.com/user/DudjomBuddhist Facebook Website:http://www.dudjomba.com www.facebook.com/DudjomBuddhist Email: info@dudjomba.org.hk 土豆 http://www.tudou.com/home/dudjom 优酷 http://i.youku.com/dudjom Copyright Owner: Dudjom Buddhist Association International Limited 56.com http://i.56.com/Dudjom