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What’s so Different About Welsh
Genealogy
Similarities
1. Talk to relatives
2. Work back in time
3. Kill off your ancestors
4. Keep track of searches
5. More than one piece of evidence
6. Record what you learn
7. Share the stories
8. Use indexes
9. Don’t trust indexes
10.Same key records
Differences
1. Common names
2. Patronymics
3. Nonconformists
4. Language
5. Place names
6. Key records online
COMMON NAMES
• Based on a study of
marriages in Wales
1813-1837
• Insight for success
Names
John
David
Thomas
Evan
William
Edward

Mary
Margaret
Hannah
Matilda
Sarah
Elizabeth
PATRONYMICS
Patronymics
• Mab or ab or ap = son of
• Ferch or verch = daughter of
• In South Wales ab or ap was not always used
Examples
• Jenkin Morgan
• David William Gibbs

• William Morgan John
• Evan Rees ap John
• David Williams
Pre 1813 burial (1750)
Naming Pattern
PLACE-NAMES
Jurisdictions

Diocese & Parish are critical
Find & Use Detailed Maps
WELSH LANGUAGE
What does an American do with this?
Records in Welsh
• Nonconformist records
• Chapel histories
• Monumental inscriptions

• Periodicals
NONCONFORMITY
KEY RECORDS ONLINE
Findmypast.com
Basic Records for Starting
• Census
• Civil registration (birth, marriage, death)
• Church records
• Probate
• Cemetery (tombstone transcriptions etc.)
Top Websites
• FamilySearch.org: more than 1 billion free records
• Findmypast: best online Welsh collection
• National Library of Wales: the nation’s archive
• FamilySearch Wiki: help & how to research info
• Vision of Britain: maps
PARISH REGISTERS
Pre 1813 burial (1750)
Post 1813 burial
Marriages
Marriages
• Marriages are indexed well and serve as a good
finding tool
• Get your bearings by using maps
– Map of the country
• https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Wales

– Map of the county showing all parishes
• The book Atlas and Index of Parish Registers
• Order one of the three maps for Wales at
http://www.ihgs.ac.uk/shop/contents/ihgsmaps/ihgsparis
hmaps/index.html?action=page&id=2
Start with a marriage index
• FindMyPast has many Welsh parish registers at
https://www.findmypast.com/ or use FindMyPast
for free at a FamilySearch Center

• A list of county based indexes is at
https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Wal
es_Marriage_Indexes_Before_1837
Marriages pre 1754
Details to watch for 1754-1837
Post 1836 Parish Register
Some details are the same as before 1837
Some details are new
Christenings
Christenings often show:
• child’s given name
• Father’s name
• Mother’s name
Sometimes included:
• Family residence such
as the village, street or
farm name
• Father’s occupation
Post 1812 parish register christening
Bishop’s Transcript
CIVIL REGISTRATION
David Thomas Howell Death Notice
On the 11th inst., aged 75 years, Mr.
David Thomas Howell, landlord of the
Star Public house, Llanguicke. He was
for many years a consistent member of
the Independents, and was highly
esteemed and beloved by all who
knew him.
CENSUS RECORDS
PROBATE RECORDS
RECORD SUPPLEMENTS /
SUBSTITUTES
Monumental Inscriptions

Supplement other records
Strategies for Success
• Kill off your ancestor
• Find your ancestor in every census
• Always search both the Parish
Registers and Bishop’s Transcripts
Strategies for Success
• Use indexes
• Don’t trust indexes
• Watch for patronymics:
David Thomas Howell is a clue
What’s so Different About Welsh
Genealogy
Basics of Welsh Research
Begin Tracing Your Family History
Gellilwca Fawr Old Farmhouse
Gellilwca Fawr New Farm House
Pre 1858 Wills
Probate Inventory of Thomas Howell
Probate Inventory of Thomas Howell
Local Histories
There was another poet living in the
district known as Howell Gellilwca, who
was grandfather to Evan Evans,
superindendent of police in Neath at this
time, but who was born and brought up
in Betting Ganol. I remember many of
Howell’s sayings…
Indexes First
NBI Coverage for Wales
• Breconshire

5,000

• Cardiganshire

108,000

• Glamorganshire

361,000

• Monmouthshire

9,000

• Montgomeryshire

less than 1,000

• Radnorshire

11,000
Something to Remember

• The National Burial Index
does not include
information from
monumental inscriptions
CHURCH RECORDS
Death Certificate
Death Certificate
Records in Welsh
Pay close attention to all names
Typical 1754-1837 marriage register
Marriage by license
Strategies for Success
• Kill off your ancestor
• Find your ancestor in every census
• Always search both the PRs and BTs
Strategies for Success
• Use indexes
• Don’t trust indexes
• Watch for patronymics:
David Thomas Howell is a clue

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What's so Different About Welsh Genealogy

Notas do Editor

  1. Image from: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~royalancestors/castles/peverel/cardiff_castle.html
  2. 1750 burials in Llangiwg, Glamorgan showing three people still using the patronymic naming pattern. These burials provide evidence for the two preceding generations. One person, William Morgan John, was old enough to be married and with an estimated span of thirty three years between generations this burial record moves the pedigree back about 100 years.
  3. Records are associated with certain jurisdictions. Parish registers, poor law and census records at the parish level, court records at the county level and probate records at the archdeaconry or diocese.
  4. Parish map from: https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/images/7/74/Glamorgan_Parish_map.jpg
  5. Ordnance Survey 25 inch to one mile map.Image taken at Neath Antiquarian Society Archive 9 September 2011.
  6. From an estate sale catalog, map scale 208.33 feet to an inch. West Glamorgan Archive Service reference D/D Z 543/1 photographed 28 February 2011.
  7. Poor law union map
  8. Gellionnen Chapel Records, FHL# 813540 item 6, TNA# RG4/3884
  9. Membership List, Gellionnen Chapel, Glamorgan, Wales, FHL# 813540 item 6, TNA# RG4/3884
  10. Membership List, Gellionnen Chapel, Glamorgan, Wales, FHL# 813540 item 6, TNA# RG4/3884
  11. 1750 burials in Llangiwg, Glamorgan showing three people still using the patronymic naming pattern. These burials provide evidence for the two preceding generations. One person, William Morgan John, was old enough to be married and with an estimated span of thirty three years between generations this burial record moves the pedigree back about 100 years.
  12. Bishop’s Transcript pre 1813
  13. https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/images/7/74/Glamorgan_Parish_map.jpg
  14. Cambrian Newspaper, 26 March 1842.
  15. 1861 census of Cilybebyll, Glamorgan, Wales
  16. I’m typing in the parish name of Llangiwg but the system does not have the parish listed under that spelling.
  17. Margaret died at age 29 and Samuel remarried but it would be difficult to prove this with the parish registers only. The burial is on Family History Library DGS number 425322, image 30,
  18. St. David’s Diocese, FHL# 1657085 showing the death date of Thomas Howell and creditors.
  19. St. David’s Diocese, FHL# 1657085 showing the death date of Thomas Howell and creditors.
  20. History of Y Gwrhyd
  21. Hanes EglwysiAnnibynnolCymru
  22. FamilySearch.org allows you to search for contact details for FamilySearch Centers around the world.
  23. Llangiwg, Glamorgan parish register, DGS number 425328, image 18