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The Great Debate
Should Schedule Revisions Require
        Owner Approval?
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• The Debaters:

• Pro position debated by the team of Chris Carson and Mark Boe
  – affectionately called “The Naysayers”
• Con debated by the other team of Mark Sanders and Carmelita
  Thorndike – just call them “The Manipulators”

• Now, for those that are unenlightened enough that they don’t
  know these famous orators, a few biographical facts:




                                                                  2
Carmelita Thorndike
• The SCL COO, Contractor Rep (you want what? when?)
• Represents the Contractor viewpoint




                                                       3
Mark Boe, P.E., PSP, all around good guy
• Master of the “it depends” response (Partner in charge of RFIs)
• Represents the Owner viewpoint




                                                                    4
Mark Sanders, P.E., PSP, CCE
• Contractor – friendly consultant (ohhh, the poor contractor!)
• Represents the Contractor viewpoint




                                                                  5
Chris Carson, PSP, CCM, PMP
• Pure and Subjective Owner CM (never met a change order he liked)
• Represents the Owner viewpoint




                                                                 6
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• NOTE:

• The Pro position is that revisions should require Owner
  approval
• The Con position is that revisions should be allowed without
  approval and should not require Owner approval

• The terms come from shortening of the Latin phrase, “pro et
  contra” which means “for and against”

• Now for some background to frame the debate…

•   These slides look like they were designed by the cost engineers.



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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Definitions
   – Schedule Revisions
       • Any change to the schedule except for progress updates
       • Serious changes to network logic and/or durations
   – Schedule Updates
       • Progress only
       • No changes to any logic, durations, calendars, lags, constraints, or other
         software settings



• And we choose:
   – Schedule Revisions
       • Serious changes to network logic and/or durations
       • Minor changes to accommodate project management minor changes to
         plan are included in schedule updates


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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Available Owner Actions
  – Silence (as Donald calls it) of the owner – receipt only, no response to schedule
    submission
      • Owner anticipates that the schedule will meet the schedule specifications
      • Owner does not provide any response to the schedule
  – Review and acceptance
      • Owner acknowledges schedule contains no conflicts with their needs
        (milestones, Owner responsible work, access)
      • Owner checks to see that schedule meets schedule specs
      • Owner review comments on issues with the statement above
  – Review and Approval or Rejection
      • Owner reviews for technical accuracy, and agrees that the project is
        constructible as represented in the schedule
      • Owner review comments clarify approval of constructability
      • Owner review comments on any technical issues, generally providing
        deficiencies and best practice violations (hopefully separately)


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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Available Contractor Actions for Submissions
   –   Contractor language indicating silence is approval (Donald)
   –   Failure to submit schedule
   –   Failure to respond to Owner’s comments
   –   Rebuttal of Owner’s comments
   –   Build claim




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Legal positions concerning approval (see end):
   – o Does it matter where a schedule is approved or not?
   – o How does it affect time extension requests?
   – o How does it affect forensic claims?




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• When a schedule is approved there is a rebuttable
  presumption of correctness or reasonableness of the
  schedule. Santa Fe, Inc., VABCA No. 2168, 87-3 BCA ¶
  20,104 (1987).
   – Because of this rebuttable presumption of the reasonableness of the
     schedule where an approval is in place, many Owners are afraid of
     approving any schedule much less an early completion schedule.
   – However, the approval process is the only chance for the Owner to
     weigh in on overly aggressive or erroneous schedules (with all float
     removed, defective logic, unauthorized inclusion of constraints,
     unrealistically short approval cycles, etc.).




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Case law holds that even where a schedule has been
  approved it will be thrown out if it contains unrealistic
  logic and/or durations.
   – See e.g. Neal & Co. v. United States, 36 Fed. Cl. 600 (1996); Hensel
     Phelps Construction Co., ASBCA No. 49270, 99-2 BCA par 30,531 (1999).




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Owners and/or their Construction Managers will
  occasionally refrain from approving or acting upon a
  Contractor’s proposed schedule because they fear that
  their response can later be used by the Contractor as
  acceptance of the schedule and the Owner’s
  responsibility under the schedule.
   – In many cases, this type of forbearance is unsuccessful. Courts have
     imposed implied obligations upon Owners with regard to the schedule
     despite the Owner’s silence.
   – In one case, when an Owner even orally disclaimed parts of the
     schedule but failed to actually reject the Contractor’s initial proposed
     schedule, the Owner was held to be bound to time durations contained
     in the submitted schedule. Fullerton Constr. Co., ASBCA No. 12275, 69-2
     BCA ¶ 7876 (1969). See also G. Blindzius Contractors, Inc., ASBCA No.
     37707, 90-2 BCA ¶ 22,835 (1990).


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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?




NOW, ON TO THE DEBATE!




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Doesn’t the Contractor own the schedule?
  – Pro – Project is for the use of the Owner




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Doesn’t the Contractor own the schedule?
  – Con – Contractor has risk of performance




                                                     17
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Schedule model the project plan?
   – Pro – Updated schedules will be the basis for future Time Impact Analyses




                                                                                 18
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Schedule model the project plan?
   – Con – Nimble project management requires that the Contractor make changes
     constantly to keep up with field decisions and deviations




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Didn’t the Owner already review and approve the original
  baseline schedule?
   – Pro – Why should new revised schedules escape this scrutiny?




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Didn’t the Owner already review and approve the original
  baseline schedule?
   – Con – Update is a different condition; owner already knows means and methods




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Isn’t the approval process difficult?
   – Pro – Analysis must be done anyway, just another step




                                                             22
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Isn’t the approval process difficult?
   – Con – Adds another cycle or requires dual schedule submission, and what
     happens when Owner wants to reject revisions?




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• How to handle time frame for review/comment/approve?
  – Pro – Can be done easily during update review




                                                     24
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• How to handle time frame for review/comment/approve?
  – Con – Takes too much time away from management




                                                     25
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Doesn’t the Owner provides a double check that all
  scope is included?
   – Pro – Raises quality of schedule & ensures that predictions of completion are
     more accurate




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Doesn’t the Owner provides a double check that all
  scope is included?
   – Con – Scope and performance risk is up to Contractor




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Doesn’t the Contractor own the schedule?
  – Pro – Project is for the use of the Owner




                                                     28
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Doesn’t the Contractor own the schedule?
  – Con – Contractor has risk of performance




                                                     29
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Schedule model the project plan?
   – Pro – Updated schedules will be the basis for future Time Impact Analyses




                                                                                 30
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Schedule model the project plan?
   – Con – Nimble project management requires that the Contractor make changes
     constantly to keep up with field decisions and deviations




                                                                                 31
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Didn’t the Owner already review and approve the original
  baseline schedule?
   – Pro – Why should new revised schedules escape this scrutiny?




                                                                    32
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Didn’t the Owner already review and approve the original
  baseline schedule?
   – Con – Update is a different condition; owner already knows means and methods




                                                                                33
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Isn’t the approval process difficult?
   – Pro – Analysis must be done anyway, just another step




                                                             34
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Isn’t the approval process difficult?
   – Con – Adds another cycle or requires dual schedule submission, and what
     happens when Owner wants to reject revisions?




                                                                               35
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• How to handle time frame for review/comment/approve?
  – Pro – Can be done easily during update review




                                                     36
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• How to handle time frame for review/comment/approve?
  – Con – Takes too much time away from management




                                                     37
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Isn’t there a risk of claims positioning in revisions?
   – Pro – Owner must have ability to enter into discussion about claims positioning




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Isn’t there a risk of claims positioning in revisions?
   – Con – Claims only happen when there is an impact event or productivity drag




                                                                                   39
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Owner must have input into how its work
  interfaces with schedule changes ?
   – Pro – Contractor often does not include Owner responsible work, such as review
     time, or Owner-furnished equipment delivery




                                                                                  40
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Owner must have input into how its work
  interfaces with schedule changes ?
   – Con – Schedule has milestones and information for Owner to use




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Don’t changes in the schedule make it harder to monitor
  and compare?
   – Pro – Analysis must be done anyway, just another step




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Don’t changes in the schedule make it harder to monitor
  and compare?
   – Con – Adds another cycle or requires dual schedule submission, and what
     happens when Owner wants to reject revisions?




                                                                               43
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Owner have an expectation that the
  Contractor will build according to submitted baseline?
   – Pro – Owner’s plans are based on baseline schedule, any deviations must be
     reviewed




                                                                                  44
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Owner have an expectation that the
  Contractor will build according to submitted baseline?
   – Con – Owner can watch the schedule and must be flexible enough to allow
     progress, including changes in plan




                                                                               45
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Owner have an opportunity to run risk
  management on the revised schedule?
   – Pro – Risk management is a serious need and requires constant review




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Owner have an opportunity to run risk
  management on the revised schedule?
   – Con – Risk of performance is Contractor’s




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Aren’t there Liquidated Damages for late completion?
   – Pro – Goal is for the project to finish on time, not to earn LDs




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Aren’t there Liquidated Damages for late completion?
   – Con – Risk of LDs should be enough control for Owner




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Owner be allowed to protect against early
  completion schedules produced during updates?
   – Pro – Float is generally available to first need, early completion schedules can be
     a Contractor’s attempt to take possession of float




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Shouldn’t the Owner be allowed to protect against early
  completion schedules produced during updates?
   – Con – Good progress will cause this situation anyway




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Doesn’t the Owner have a right to ensure schedule
  includes resource planning and availability?
   – Pro – Failure to continue to plan for resource availability will ensure failure of
     project




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Doesn’t the Owner have a right to ensure schedule
  includes resource planning and availability?
   – Con – Risk and resource availability is up to Contractor




                                                                53
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Can’t the Owner reject the submitted revised update
  schedule anyway?
   – Pro – Better to know it immediately than later when it causes a problem




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Can’t the Owner reject the submitted revised update
  schedule anyway?
   – Con – Exactly, if Owner disapproves, schedule is worthless to Contractor for
     management




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Doesn’t the process of review and approval result in
  better negotiated schedule changes?
   – Pro – This is a good thing, better to negotiate than to wind up in a claim situation




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• Doesn’t the process of review and approval result in
  better negotiated schedule changes?
   – Con – Just increases the burden on an already overworked project manager and
     field staff




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• This Debate is Terminated for Convenience!!




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                                                      58
Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• In the 2005 AACE International Transactions, Pat Galloway
  states in her paper on “CPM Scheduling and How the Industry
  Views Its Use”,
   – “Owners have a variety of reasons that they specify revisions in their
     specifications. The largest response as to why a schedule revision was required
     was equally shared, 72 percent between:
       • Project behind Schedule
       • Change Orders.
   – The next major reason cited was critical path changes, 56 percent.
   – Other reasons noted by Owners for requiring schedule revisions included:
       •   Resource changes for either manpower or equipment.
       •   Logic changes/duration changes/or Contractor sequence changes.
       •   When requested by the Owner.
       •   When time extensions are approved.”
• All these reasons might result in a revision, no matter whether
  the Owner requested them or not

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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• In the 2005 AACE International Transactions, Jim O’Brien
  and Earl Glenwright state in their paper, “Contemporary
  Controversies – Circa 2005”
   – “A schedule cannot be continuously changed if the project is to be
     completed 'as scheduled'.”
   – “Deviations from the 'planned' schedule will always occur for no other
     reason than the planned durations and resource performance are
     estimates. The deviation must be watched as a sequence of activities is
     accomplished.
   – When the deviation[s] become a problem then corrective action must be
     taken but the planned schedule is not changed. The corrective actions
     are taken to put the project back on the planned course.”
• This position supports not keeping the schedule model
  current with the plan, following this philosophy, revisions
  would not be an issue.
• Reactions?
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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• How do today’s schedules with resource and/or cost
  loading deal with full or partial acceptance by Owner?
  (suggestion by Donald McDonald)

• Assuming cost and resource loaded schedules, does that
  change the argument?
   – Pro – No, it gets even more important that Owner has ability to review and
     approve
   – Con – No, it just increased the complexity and time involved in allowing the
     Owner to review and comment




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Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?


• So, what’s the answer? Approve or not?

• VOTING TIME!

• Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?

   – Yea -

   – Nay -


• And the winners are:



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The Great Debate
Should Schedule Revisions Require
        Owner Approval?

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2010 AACEi Great Debate - Approval of Schedule Revisions

  • 1. The Great Debate Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?
  • 2. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • The Debaters: • Pro position debated by the team of Chris Carson and Mark Boe – affectionately called “The Naysayers” • Con debated by the other team of Mark Sanders and Carmelita Thorndike – just call them “The Manipulators” • Now, for those that are unenlightened enough that they don’t know these famous orators, a few biographical facts: 2
  • 3. Carmelita Thorndike • The SCL COO, Contractor Rep (you want what? when?) • Represents the Contractor viewpoint 3
  • 4. Mark Boe, P.E., PSP, all around good guy • Master of the “it depends” response (Partner in charge of RFIs) • Represents the Owner viewpoint 4
  • 5. Mark Sanders, P.E., PSP, CCE • Contractor – friendly consultant (ohhh, the poor contractor!) • Represents the Contractor viewpoint 5
  • 6. Chris Carson, PSP, CCM, PMP • Pure and Subjective Owner CM (never met a change order he liked) • Represents the Owner viewpoint 6
  • 7. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • NOTE: • The Pro position is that revisions should require Owner approval • The Con position is that revisions should be allowed without approval and should not require Owner approval • The terms come from shortening of the Latin phrase, “pro et contra” which means “for and against” • Now for some background to frame the debate… • These slides look like they were designed by the cost engineers. 7
  • 8. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Definitions – Schedule Revisions • Any change to the schedule except for progress updates • Serious changes to network logic and/or durations – Schedule Updates • Progress only • No changes to any logic, durations, calendars, lags, constraints, or other software settings • And we choose: – Schedule Revisions • Serious changes to network logic and/or durations • Minor changes to accommodate project management minor changes to plan are included in schedule updates 8
  • 9. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Available Owner Actions – Silence (as Donald calls it) of the owner – receipt only, no response to schedule submission • Owner anticipates that the schedule will meet the schedule specifications • Owner does not provide any response to the schedule – Review and acceptance • Owner acknowledges schedule contains no conflicts with their needs (milestones, Owner responsible work, access) • Owner checks to see that schedule meets schedule specs • Owner review comments on issues with the statement above – Review and Approval or Rejection • Owner reviews for technical accuracy, and agrees that the project is constructible as represented in the schedule • Owner review comments clarify approval of constructability • Owner review comments on any technical issues, generally providing deficiencies and best practice violations (hopefully separately) 9
  • 10. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Available Contractor Actions for Submissions – Contractor language indicating silence is approval (Donald) – Failure to submit schedule – Failure to respond to Owner’s comments – Rebuttal of Owner’s comments – Build claim 10
  • 11. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Legal positions concerning approval (see end): – o Does it matter where a schedule is approved or not? – o How does it affect time extension requests? – o How does it affect forensic claims? 11
  • 12. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • When a schedule is approved there is a rebuttable presumption of correctness or reasonableness of the schedule. Santa Fe, Inc., VABCA No. 2168, 87-3 BCA ¶ 20,104 (1987). – Because of this rebuttable presumption of the reasonableness of the schedule where an approval is in place, many Owners are afraid of approving any schedule much less an early completion schedule. – However, the approval process is the only chance for the Owner to weigh in on overly aggressive or erroneous schedules (with all float removed, defective logic, unauthorized inclusion of constraints, unrealistically short approval cycles, etc.). 12
  • 13. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Case law holds that even where a schedule has been approved it will be thrown out if it contains unrealistic logic and/or durations. – See e.g. Neal & Co. v. United States, 36 Fed. Cl. 600 (1996); Hensel Phelps Construction Co., ASBCA No. 49270, 99-2 BCA par 30,531 (1999). 13
  • 14. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Owners and/or their Construction Managers will occasionally refrain from approving or acting upon a Contractor’s proposed schedule because they fear that their response can later be used by the Contractor as acceptance of the schedule and the Owner’s responsibility under the schedule. – In many cases, this type of forbearance is unsuccessful. Courts have imposed implied obligations upon Owners with regard to the schedule despite the Owner’s silence. – In one case, when an Owner even orally disclaimed parts of the schedule but failed to actually reject the Contractor’s initial proposed schedule, the Owner was held to be bound to time durations contained in the submitted schedule. Fullerton Constr. Co., ASBCA No. 12275, 69-2 BCA ¶ 7876 (1969). See also G. Blindzius Contractors, Inc., ASBCA No. 37707, 90-2 BCA ¶ 22,835 (1990). 14
  • 15. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? NOW, ON TO THE DEBATE! 15
  • 16. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Doesn’t the Contractor own the schedule? – Pro – Project is for the use of the Owner 16
  • 17. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Doesn’t the Contractor own the schedule? – Con – Contractor has risk of performance 17
  • 18. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Schedule model the project plan? – Pro – Updated schedules will be the basis for future Time Impact Analyses 18
  • 19. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Schedule model the project plan? – Con – Nimble project management requires that the Contractor make changes constantly to keep up with field decisions and deviations 19
  • 20. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Didn’t the Owner already review and approve the original baseline schedule? – Pro – Why should new revised schedules escape this scrutiny? 20
  • 21. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Didn’t the Owner already review and approve the original baseline schedule? – Con – Update is a different condition; owner already knows means and methods 21
  • 22. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Isn’t the approval process difficult? – Pro – Analysis must be done anyway, just another step 22
  • 23. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Isn’t the approval process difficult? – Con – Adds another cycle or requires dual schedule submission, and what happens when Owner wants to reject revisions? 23
  • 24. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • How to handle time frame for review/comment/approve? – Pro – Can be done easily during update review 24
  • 25. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • How to handle time frame for review/comment/approve? – Con – Takes too much time away from management 25
  • 26. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Doesn’t the Owner provides a double check that all scope is included? – Pro – Raises quality of schedule & ensures that predictions of completion are more accurate 26
  • 27. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Doesn’t the Owner provides a double check that all scope is included? – Con – Scope and performance risk is up to Contractor 27
  • 28. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Doesn’t the Contractor own the schedule? – Pro – Project is for the use of the Owner 28
  • 29. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Doesn’t the Contractor own the schedule? – Con – Contractor has risk of performance 29
  • 30. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Schedule model the project plan? – Pro – Updated schedules will be the basis for future Time Impact Analyses 30
  • 31. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Schedule model the project plan? – Con – Nimble project management requires that the Contractor make changes constantly to keep up with field decisions and deviations 31
  • 32. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Didn’t the Owner already review and approve the original baseline schedule? – Pro – Why should new revised schedules escape this scrutiny? 32
  • 33. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Didn’t the Owner already review and approve the original baseline schedule? – Con – Update is a different condition; owner already knows means and methods 33
  • 34. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Isn’t the approval process difficult? – Pro – Analysis must be done anyway, just another step 34
  • 35. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Isn’t the approval process difficult? – Con – Adds another cycle or requires dual schedule submission, and what happens when Owner wants to reject revisions? 35
  • 36. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • How to handle time frame for review/comment/approve? – Pro – Can be done easily during update review 36
  • 37. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • How to handle time frame for review/comment/approve? – Con – Takes too much time away from management 37
  • 38. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Isn’t there a risk of claims positioning in revisions? – Pro – Owner must have ability to enter into discussion about claims positioning 38
  • 39. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Isn’t there a risk of claims positioning in revisions? – Con – Claims only happen when there is an impact event or productivity drag 39
  • 40. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Owner must have input into how its work interfaces with schedule changes ? – Pro – Contractor often does not include Owner responsible work, such as review time, or Owner-furnished equipment delivery 40
  • 41. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Owner must have input into how its work interfaces with schedule changes ? – Con – Schedule has milestones and information for Owner to use 41
  • 42. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Don’t changes in the schedule make it harder to monitor and compare? – Pro – Analysis must be done anyway, just another step 42
  • 43. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Don’t changes in the schedule make it harder to monitor and compare? – Con – Adds another cycle or requires dual schedule submission, and what happens when Owner wants to reject revisions? 43
  • 44. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Owner have an expectation that the Contractor will build according to submitted baseline? – Pro – Owner’s plans are based on baseline schedule, any deviations must be reviewed 44
  • 45. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Owner have an expectation that the Contractor will build according to submitted baseline? – Con – Owner can watch the schedule and must be flexible enough to allow progress, including changes in plan 45
  • 46. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Owner have an opportunity to run risk management on the revised schedule? – Pro – Risk management is a serious need and requires constant review 46
  • 47. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Owner have an opportunity to run risk management on the revised schedule? – Con – Risk of performance is Contractor’s 47
  • 48. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Aren’t there Liquidated Damages for late completion? – Pro – Goal is for the project to finish on time, not to earn LDs 48
  • 49. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Aren’t there Liquidated Damages for late completion? – Con – Risk of LDs should be enough control for Owner 49
  • 50. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Owner be allowed to protect against early completion schedules produced during updates? – Pro – Float is generally available to first need, early completion schedules can be a Contractor’s attempt to take possession of float 50
  • 51. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Shouldn’t the Owner be allowed to protect against early completion schedules produced during updates? – Con – Good progress will cause this situation anyway 51
  • 52. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Doesn’t the Owner have a right to ensure schedule includes resource planning and availability? – Pro – Failure to continue to plan for resource availability will ensure failure of project 52
  • 53. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Doesn’t the Owner have a right to ensure schedule includes resource planning and availability? – Con – Risk and resource availability is up to Contractor 53
  • 54. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Can’t the Owner reject the submitted revised update schedule anyway? – Pro – Better to know it immediately than later when it causes a problem 54
  • 55. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Can’t the Owner reject the submitted revised update schedule anyway? – Con – Exactly, if Owner disapproves, schedule is worthless to Contractor for management 55
  • 56. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Doesn’t the process of review and approval result in better negotiated schedule changes? – Pro – This is a good thing, better to negotiate than to wind up in a claim situation 56
  • 57. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • Doesn’t the process of review and approval result in better negotiated schedule changes? – Con – Just increases the burden on an already overworked project manager and field staff 57
  • 58. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • This Debate is Terminated for Convenience!! You have just the skills we need in a consultant 58
  • 59. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • In the 2005 AACE International Transactions, Pat Galloway states in her paper on “CPM Scheduling and How the Industry Views Its Use”, – “Owners have a variety of reasons that they specify revisions in their specifications. The largest response as to why a schedule revision was required was equally shared, 72 percent between: • Project behind Schedule • Change Orders. – The next major reason cited was critical path changes, 56 percent. – Other reasons noted by Owners for requiring schedule revisions included: • Resource changes for either manpower or equipment. • Logic changes/duration changes/or Contractor sequence changes. • When requested by the Owner. • When time extensions are approved.” • All these reasons might result in a revision, no matter whether the Owner requested them or not 59
  • 60. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • In the 2005 AACE International Transactions, Jim O’Brien and Earl Glenwright state in their paper, “Contemporary Controversies – Circa 2005” – “A schedule cannot be continuously changed if the project is to be completed 'as scheduled'.” – “Deviations from the 'planned' schedule will always occur for no other reason than the planned durations and resource performance are estimates. The deviation must be watched as a sequence of activities is accomplished. – When the deviation[s] become a problem then corrective action must be taken but the planned schedule is not changed. The corrective actions are taken to put the project back on the planned course.” • This position supports not keeping the schedule model current with the plan, following this philosophy, revisions would not be an issue. • Reactions? 60
  • 61. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • How do today’s schedules with resource and/or cost loading deal with full or partial acceptance by Owner? (suggestion by Donald McDonald) • Assuming cost and resource loaded schedules, does that change the argument? – Pro – No, it gets even more important that Owner has ability to review and approve – Con – No, it just increased the complexity and time involved in allowing the Owner to review and comment 61
  • 62. Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? • So, what’s the answer? Approve or not? • VOTING TIME! • Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval? – Yea - – Nay - • And the winners are: 62
  • 63. The Great Debate Should Schedule Revisions Require Owner Approval?